Re: Galileans, ambiguous oracles, Christians, and the generational prophecy.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:51 pm
There *appears* to have been a Calendar War between the City States and Qumran. The Luni-Solar vs. the 364 Pure Solar. Eisenman and Wise, Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered. The Qumran Group is waiting to impose the Solar on Jerusalem when they take over. Eisenman and Wise state that the Qumran Group used the Mishmarot Rotations as a check on various Calendars.
i may repost some notes from an ol' timer, David Christensen, who sent one of those knock-yer-socks-off E-Mails a few years back. (RIP DC, I think...)
His E-Mail was important. Consider: There are 24 Mishmarot Groups. They rotate into Jerusalem each Sabbath. 24 x 7 = 168 days before a Group returns to Jerusalem. That's fine except you don't know any one week that any one Group would be on Duty. Except...You do.
Jehoiarib was on Duty for the Destruction of the Temple and we "know" that date - 10 of Ab, 70 (Josephus and the Babylonian Talmud).
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/JulianDate.php
Now go to your Julian Day Converter and find out what day that was. You also need a New Moon Table for determining Passover. I'll try and find one in my 1000 bookmarks and <Edit> it here. Count back/forward to the next Sabbath from the Destruction of the Temple and then find the Group you are interested in. Count in groups of 168 days for when that Mishmarot Group was previously in Jerusalem.
E and W comment of the alignments and first Calendars (Gamul is in there somewhere at the start 5000-ish years prior. *Note*: Since our friends the Hasmoneans are given to Jehoiarib, 1 Chronicles 24, which gives the updated List from David, has the Leading Group as Jehoiarib and not Gamul.
From an old Summary:
"If we compute another date based on the Sabbath, we will get some Mishmarot Group coming to Duty. Let's continue with Jehoiarib. If a Julian Date is given for that Sabbath, subtract the Julian Date from the Sabbath Date of Jehoiarib at the fall of the Temple (Make decision as to the Start of the Week or the End of the Week) Divide by 168. If the remainder is Zero, that means that Jehoiarib started (or ended) the week on that date.
Jehoiarib 1720128
JD 1720128.500000 is
BCE 4 June 16 00:00:00.0 UT Saturday
1746840 – 1720128 = 26712. 26712 / 168 = 159. NO REMAINDER.
Jehoiarib was on Duty for the week of June 16, 4 BCE.
The question now becomes, “When did Immer have Mishmarot Service and was it during Passover?
Immer is 7 weeks “ahead” of Jehoiarib – for ease of calculating – and that is 63 days.
1720128 – 63 = 1720065.
JD 1720065.500000 is
BCE 4 April 14 00:00:00.0 UT Saturday
The Dates for Passover: http://www.observadores-cometas.com/com ... sover.html
Compare with the Hebrew/ Roman Calendar, given above. No differences for computational purposes.
April 1 1, 4 BCE.
Immer was on Duty for Passover Week, 4 BCE.
Eisenman and Wise, The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered, ISBN-13 978-15661-9623-9, p 108”
“In all their timekeeping, the authors of the Qumran Calendars reckoned not only by months, but also by the rotation of the Priestly Courses (mishmarot)...Qumran texts relied upon this 'eternal cycle' not only for their calendar units, but for their chronography and historiography...Every sabbath, month, year and feast bore the name of a priestly family.”
It is easy to show that Immer was on Duty for the 9 CE Passover as well."
Note that I have to check my Maff here as well. Typos in this version...
More later,
CW
i may repost some notes from an ol' timer, David Christensen, who sent one of those knock-yer-socks-off E-Mails a few years back. (RIP DC, I think...)
His E-Mail was important. Consider: There are 24 Mishmarot Groups. They rotate into Jerusalem each Sabbath. 24 x 7 = 168 days before a Group returns to Jerusalem. That's fine except you don't know any one week that any one Group would be on Duty. Except...You do.
Jehoiarib was on Duty for the Destruction of the Temple and we "know" that date - 10 of Ab, 70 (Josephus and the Babylonian Talmud).
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/JulianDate.php
Now go to your Julian Day Converter and find out what day that was. You also need a New Moon Table for determining Passover. I'll try and find one in my 1000 bookmarks and <Edit> it here. Count back/forward to the next Sabbath from the Destruction of the Temple and then find the Group you are interested in. Count in groups of 168 days for when that Mishmarot Group was previously in Jerusalem.
E and W comment of the alignments and first Calendars (Gamul is in there somewhere at the start 5000-ish years prior. *Note*: Since our friends the Hasmoneans are given to Jehoiarib, 1 Chronicles 24, which gives the updated List from David, has the Leading Group as Jehoiarib and not Gamul.
From an old Summary:
"If we compute another date based on the Sabbath, we will get some Mishmarot Group coming to Duty. Let's continue with Jehoiarib. If a Julian Date is given for that Sabbath, subtract the Julian Date from the Sabbath Date of Jehoiarib at the fall of the Temple (Make decision as to the Start of the Week or the End of the Week) Divide by 168. If the remainder is Zero, that means that Jehoiarib started (or ended) the week on that date.
Jehoiarib 1720128
JD 1720128.500000 is
BCE 4 June 16 00:00:00.0 UT Saturday
1746840 – 1720128 = 26712. 26712 / 168 = 159. NO REMAINDER.
Jehoiarib was on Duty for the week of June 16, 4 BCE.
The question now becomes, “When did Immer have Mishmarot Service and was it during Passover?
Immer is 7 weeks “ahead” of Jehoiarib – for ease of calculating – and that is 63 days.
1720128 – 63 = 1720065.
JD 1720065.500000 is
BCE 4 April 14 00:00:00.0 UT Saturday
The Dates for Passover: http://www.observadores-cometas.com/com ... sover.html
Compare with the Hebrew/ Roman Calendar, given above. No differences for computational purposes.
April 1 1, 4 BCE.
Immer was on Duty for Passover Week, 4 BCE.
Eisenman and Wise, The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered, ISBN-13 978-15661-9623-9, p 108”
“In all their timekeeping, the authors of the Qumran Calendars reckoned not only by months, but also by the rotation of the Priestly Courses (mishmarot)...Qumran texts relied upon this 'eternal cycle' not only for their calendar units, but for their chronography and historiography...Every sabbath, month, year and feast bore the name of a priestly family.”
It is easy to show that Immer was on Duty for the 9 CE Passover as well."
Note that I have to check my Maff here as well. Typos in this version...
More later,
CW