Who wrote the NT?
Who wrote the NT?
''Brothers of the Lord'' ?
Apostles?
Prophets?
Teachers?
Bishops?
Diacons?
god?
Apostles?
Prophets?
Teachers?
Bishops?
Diacons?
god?
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
Re: Who wrote the NT?
Who compiled the NT?
How much editing and redacting was done while it was being put together?
How much editing and redacting was done while it was being put together?
Re: Who wrote the NT?
No, no. I mean: who were "Mark", "Matthew", Marcion, etc?
Were they prophets or teachers?
Were they prophets or teachers?
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
Re: Who wrote the NT?
I have no means whereby to prove it, but I suspect that much of the authorship of the NT was the product of various schools, with multiple teacher and student authors, and with debates leading to redactions happening right in the classroom. And perhaps as students left one school and traveled to another, they took what they learned along with them, and melded it into the product of their new school.
Certainly such high Christology was not the product of a handful of admittedly illiterate fishermen from Galilee.
Certainly such high Christology was not the product of a handful of admittedly illiterate fishermen from Galilee.
Re: Who wrote the NT?
Paul wrote some. The rest we don't know beyond saying early Christians from c.70-120CE, with the Pastorals perhaps being a little later still...
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Re: Who wrote the NT?
I think James the Just wrote the Letter of James, his brother Jude wrote Jude, Peter wrote 1 Peter, and Mark was a Gentile follower of Peter and wrote the Gospel of Mark (and is mentioned in 1 Peter). I think whoever wrote Revelation was a Jewish Christian named John writing from Patmos, like he says in 1:9. I think Paul wrote Romans, Galatians, 1 and 2 Corinthians, 1 Thessalonians (including 2:14-15), Philippians and Philemon. I've never really thought about who wrote Matthew, and I figure Luke was a Gentile writing sometime after the publication of Josephus' Antiquities and can imagine it being as late as after the Bar Kokhba war (and I think they used Matthew and there was no Q). I haven't thought about the Gospel of John or other letters much. Excepting this or that interpolation, I don't think it needs to be more complicated than this.
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Re: Who wrote the NT?
They were people with enough free time, money, and literacy to obtain copies of the LXX and study it deeply, and had access to a Greek-style education to a certain degree, both of which put them in an elite category -- a far cry from the humble "pious tradents" that modern scholarship would like to believe them to be. Most likely they were leaders of congregations who supported them financially. They must have had some independent wealth. Obtaining copies of the LXX could not have been easy. You had to have "connections" and credentials, like getting access to the Vatican Library.
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Re: Who wrote the NT?
For the most part I agree with this.Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:10 pm They were people with enough free time, money, and literacy to obtain copies of the LXX and study it deeply, and had access to a Greek-style education to a certain degree, both of which put them in an elite category -- a far cry from the humble "pious tradents" that modern scholarship would like to believe them to be. Most likely they were leaders of congregations who supported them financially. They must have had some independent wealth. Obtaining copies of the LXX could not have been easy. You had to have "connections" and credentials, like getting access to the Vatican Library.
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Re: Who wrote the NT?
Probably deacons or teachers first. The Apostle (singular) would compose the basis of the Evangelium (in fact, I'm beginning to suspect that the original Good News was something like an Epistle), but this would serve as a source.
If we're just limiting ourselves to who wrote/compiled our canon, then we do have an answer: Irenaeus. But if we're asking what his sources were, then the answer is less straightforward. That's why I've focused on the geography of the texts rather than their authors.
Ur-John, Syria
Ur-Mark, Alexandria
Ur-Matthew, Judea
Luke (entirely fraudulent), Rome
This may help narrow the list of potential authors of each source text.
If we're just limiting ourselves to who wrote/compiled our canon, then we do have an answer: Irenaeus. But if we're asking what his sources were, then the answer is less straightforward. That's why I've focused on the geography of the texts rather than their authors.
Ur-John, Syria
Ur-Mark, Alexandria
Ur-Matthew, Judea
Luke (entirely fraudulent), Rome
This may help narrow the list of potential authors of each source text.
Re: Who wrote the NT?
Why do you assign Ur-Mark to Alexandria?Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:16 am Probably deacons or teachers first. The Apostle (singular) would compose the basis of the Evangelium (in fact, I'm beginning to suspect that the original Good News was something like an Epistle), but this would serve as a source.
If we're just limiting ourselves to who wrote/compiled our canon, then we do have an answer: Irenaeus. But if we're asking what his sources were, then the answer is less straightforward. That's why I've focused on the geography of the texts rather than their authors.
Ur-John, Syria
Ur-Mark, Alexandria
Ur-Matthew, Judea
Luke (entirely fraudulent), Rome
This may help narrow the list of potential authors of each source text.