Mark, the Evangelist
John Mark
Mark of Apollonias
Markianos of Alexandria
Mahalia, Marcus of Jerusalem
Marcus Pompeius
Marcus the Magician
Marcion of Sinope
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If this was pre-EU Germany, we'd all be rich by now ...Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:50 am Mark, the Evangelist
John Mark
Mark of Apollonias
Markianos of Alexandria
Mahalia, Marcus of Jerusalem
Marcus Pompeius
Marcus the Magician
Marcion of Sinope
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Re: A Surfeit of Marks
Some of those figures may well be the same person. (The first three are commonly identified cleanly, whether John Mark "really" wrote the gospel or not.)Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:50 am Mark, the Evangelist
John Mark
Mark of Apollonias
Markianos of Alexandria
Mahalia, Marcus of Jerusalem
Marcus Pompeius
Marcus the Magician
Marcion of Sinope
Also:
Marcus... is a Latin praenomen, or personal name, which was one of the most common names throughout Roman history. .... At all periods of Roman history, Marcus was the third-most popular praenomen, trailing only Lucius and Gaius.
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Re: A Surfeit of Marks
It may seem too contrived but I believe that all of these usages of "Mark" are indicative of the same figure. (Whom I presume to be the Stranger with Many Forms/Names)Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 7:48 pm Some of those figures may well be the same person. (The first three are commonly identified cleanly, whether John Mark "really" wrote the gospel or not.
As to "John Mark" composing a Gospel, John Mark seems to me to be a composite of two traditions of the same figure, one that is Johannine (Syrian, Ephesus, Antioch), and the other that is Markan (Egypt, Rome). "Paul" and "Barnabas" are synonymous with this figure. His text may have been a John/Mark mix, although I would say it was the original.
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I think you may be combining too many people. Not all Marks are likely to be the same Mark.Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 9:34 pmIt may seem too contrived but I believe that all of these usages of "Mark" are indicative of the same figure. (Whom I presume to be the Stranger with Many Forms/Names)Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 7:48 pm Some of those figures may well be the same person. (The first three are commonly identified cleanly, whether John Mark "really" wrote the gospel or not.
As to "John Mark" composing a Gospel, John Mark seems to me to be a composite of two traditions of the same figure, one that is Johannine (Syrian, Ephesus, Antioch), and the other that is Markan (Egypt, Rome). "Paul" and "Barnabas" are synonymous with this figure. His text may have been a John/Mark mix, although I would say it was the original.
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It comes down to determining who is real, and who is a product of tradition.Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 5:22 am I think you may be combining too many people. Not all Marks are likely to be the same Mark.
Mark, the Evangelist
Mark, of Apollonias
Mark, called John
These three are clearly dependent upon traditional accounts which likely evolved from the original Mark figure.
Marcion of Sinope
Marcus the Magician
Likely the same figure, but also dependent upon tradition. As autonomous individuals in history, they did not exist.
Mark, the Gentile Bishop
Markianos of Alexandria
Marcus Pompeius
Here we may actually be getting closer to historical figures, and the possibility that these three are the same is very likely.