Alfaric versus Couchoud about the Earliest Gospel

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Alfaric versus Couchoud about the Earliest Gospel

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According to Prosper Alfaric:



proto-Mark <---- proto-Luke (aka Mcn) <------ Luke <----- Matthew
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According to Paul-Louis-Couchoud:

proto-Luke (aka Mcn) <----> Mark <----- Luke <---- Matthew


Often it is said that proto-Luke cannot be the Earliest Gospel since:

it is not so allegorical and secret as Mark (therefore assuming already a historical faith and a popular certainty in what it talks about)

About that secrecy in Mark, I see only three possible reasons behind it:

1) the Secret is Messianic (Wrede), to mean that the people don't know that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, when really Jesus is Messiah.

2) the Secret is not Messianic (Ory), to mean that the people believe that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, when really Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah.

3) the Secret is anti-marcionite Apology:
The god of the Jews said, Aure audietis et non audietis (Is. vi. 9). Jesus, on the other hand, wishes all ears to be opened (T. iv. 19). All should listen, since there is no longer anything hidden; everything is made clear.

(Couchoud, Creation of Christ, p. 399)


In 2 on 3 cases, the Earliest Gospel is marcionite in nature.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Re: Alfaric versus Couchoud about the Earliest Gospel

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And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

(Matthew 11:12)

This passage is evidence of a conflict between Evangelists who preach a too-much-clear Gospel (proto-Luke? Mcn?), hence the ''violence'' of their openly propagandistic ''Kingdom of heaven'',...

...and the (clearly later) Evangelists who preach a secret propaganda (Mark?) just in reaction to that openly aggressive propaganda about the same ''Kingdom''.

The reference to John, in this hypothesis, is that John is the symbol par excellence of that open first aggressive propaganda, since he is used as the witness par-excellence of an ''objective'' and ''historical'' Jesus.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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