Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:45 pm
Giuseppe --
Do you read "Lord" as "Mar-Yah"?
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Do you read "Lord" as "Mar-Yah"?
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No idea you are talking about.
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Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:36 am
Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:56 am
Thank you.
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Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:23 am
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Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:40 am
It is curious that none of the comments above identifies Mark 15:48-50 as another point of break of the Messianic Secret in (proto-)Mark by ''Mark'' (redactor):
Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:24 am Neil does an interesting question:
https://vridar.org/2018/06/17/is-this-s ... ment-85729How would you go about determining that such passages in Mark were composed to counter Marcionism and not that Marcion came later and disagreed with such passages?
My answer may be not to his same his level:
So I have found another break of the Messianic Secret in proto-Mark by "Mark".Thank you for the optimal question, Neil.
My answer: Since Mark 15:48-50 breaks the Messianic Secret in proto-Mark, by having a Jesus who remembers to his enemies the fact that he was not an unknown person (i.e. unknown as a robber is by definition) but was someone *very well known* during the day. So it is an anti-marcionite interpolation.
Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:49 am
Following the logic of the previous comment above, I wonder if even the Barabbas episode breaks someway the Messianic Secret. Afterall, it is an attempt to identify with more precision Jesus by contrasting him against anohter man (Jesus Barabbas) who surely is not him (since he is a brigand and the true Jesus can't be a brigand).
Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:14 am
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Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:25 am
Ops, I mean Mark 14:48-50. Follow the link above.Martin Klatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:14 amIn my Bible these lines are missing. What are you talking about?
Re: Where didn't Mark preserve the Secret motif ?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:32 am
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