Is Peter the father of Judas Iscariot?

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Re: Is Peter the father of Judas Iscariot?

Post by Stefan Kristensen » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:35 am

lsayre wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:37 am
Stefan Kristensen wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:03 am
The last name of Peter is apparantly given in Matt 16:17, it is Barjonah.
Isn't Jonah a first name in this context?
What jude77 said. It's a patronym, so kind of a last name.

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Re: Is Peter the father of Judas Iscariot?

Post by Jax » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:32 pm

jude77 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:28 pm
lsayre wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:37 am
Stefan Kristensen wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:03 am
The last name of Peter is apparantly given in Matt 16:17, it is Barjonah.
Isn't Jonah a first name in this context?
Yes, "Jonah" is a first name, but people back then didn't have last names like we do. Instead, someone's "last name" was their father's name. So if your name was "Woody", and your father's name was "Willy", you'd be known as "Woody son of Willy". In Aramaic the word "Bar" (as in Bar-jonah) means "son of", so "Simon Bar-Jonah" would mean "Simon son of Jonah". "
Now I would love to have the name Woody BarWilly. :D

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Re: Is Peter the father of Judas Iscariot?

Post by jude77 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:16 am

Jax wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:32 pm
jude77 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:28 pm
lsayre wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:37 am
Stefan Kristensen wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:03 am
The last name of Peter is apparantly given in Matt 16:17, it is Barjonah.
Isn't Jonah a first name in this context?
Yes, "Jonah" is a first name, but people back then didn't have last names like we do. Instead, someone's "last name" was their father's name. So if your name was "Woody", and your father's name was "Willy", you'd be known as "Woody son of Willy". In Aramaic the word "Bar" (as in Bar-jonah) means "son of", so "Simon Bar-Jonah" would mean "Simon son of Jonah". "
Now I would love to have the name Woody BarWilly. :D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Well said!!!!

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