Were the women the same false family who persecuted Jesus?

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Were the women the same false family who persecuted Jesus?

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We are used to see the women at the Tomb as really Christian disciples of Jesus, from the simple fact that it is said that they "served him" in 16:41 :
In Galilee these women had followed him and cared for his needs. Many other women who had come up with him to Jerusalem were also there.
But assume gratuitously that these women were the same relatives of Jesus referred to in Mark 3:21 :
When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”
Then these women are not true disciples: at least, surely they don't know who is really Jesus. They may have even bad intentions about him.

If my hypothesis is correct (the women of Mark 16 being the same "family" of Mark 3) then we are arrived at a turning point of the story: who in Mark 3:21 was searching for Jesus without never be able to arrest him (because of the "wall" represented by the crowd of listeners around Jesus) are going finally to conquer his body in Mark 15:41, after so much labor. Even the sudden apparition of Joseph of Arimathea seems an other obstacle for them from this respect. So the stone before the tomb serves as a protective function against them, because otherwise they can conquer Jesus.

But then, just when these women can conquer the body of Jesus, their diabolic plan is defeated: so these women are allegory of the rulers of this age, since they realize who is Jesus (basically: not who they believed him be until that moment) only at the end.

So the family of Jesus is really condemned by their fugue en masse. The point is reiterated just at the end of the Gospel that Jesus is basically without a carnal family in Mark.

This explains why Mary in Mark 15 & 16 is never called mother of Jesus: she is basically not the true mother of Jesus even if she believes wrongly so.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Re: Were the women the same false family who persecuted Jesus?

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A clue that these women are allegory of the archontes is the fact that in later gospels the role of who escapes before the Risen one is assumed by the "guards", already per se the earthly representatives of the demonic archontes.

Evidently Matthew replaced the guards for the women (in the role of the terrified people at the Empty Tomb) because he had realized the anti-family point in Mark behind the presence of these women at the Empty Tomb:
if even the same presumed carnal family of Jesus is terrified by the Risen (or simply don't see or don't realize who is him) then there are no doubts: Jesus is basically ALIEN to this world of the demiurge.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Re: Were the women the same false family who persecuted Jesus?

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But there is even more than this:

Women = relatives of Jesus

If Jesus is really their carnal relative, then he is really from Nazaret and really a carpenter.

Carpenter = demiurge.

The brothers and relatives of the demiurge are the other archontes who rule the Pagan nations while the demiurge rules only Israel.

But Jesus is NOT the carpenter.

So the fugue of the women allegorizes really the final defeat of the archontes. The Ascension is already happened insofar Jesus precedes the defeated archontes [the 12 apostles being rulers of the respective tribes] in the upper realm: the Galilee of the gentiles.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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