4 or 5 reasons why only demons crucified Jesus in the original myth

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4 or 5 reasons why only demons crucified Jesus in the original myth

Post by Giuseppe » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:06 am

First reason: if the crucifixion happened among the earth and the moon, per Doherty-Carrier. So if you disagree with this, ignore this reason and read the following reasons.

Second reason: the entire point behind the claim that ''the Jews'' crucified Jesus could be introduced only after the 70 CE, in a time when only a so great sin by the Jewish people against their Messiah could have justified a so great historical destruction of Judea by the Romans.

Third reason: the entire point behind the claim that ''the Jews'' crucified Jesus could be introduced only in the second century, in a time when someone (early Gnostic Christians) was denying that the Son of Father was the Jewish Messiah, so that only a Jewish crime against the Son could have confirmed, at least, his Jewish identity. The Jew Paul had no need of specifying that the Son was the Jewish Messiah by pointing the Jewish identity of the his killers, since Gnostics never existed in the lifetime of Paul.


Fourth reason: Pilate is so strictly connected with the fictitious character named ''Jesus Barabbas'', and the latter is so probably a parody of the unknown ''Son of Father'' adored by the Gnostics, that the reasons for a Pilate in the story are reducible to the reasons for a Barabbas in the story: he could be introduced only in a time when occurred intra-Christian polemics between the Gnostic camp and the Judaizing camp (viz.: second century). The Jew Paul had no need of specifying that the Son was the Jewish Messiah by pointing the fact that the Romans killed him as the ''King of the Jews'', since Gnostics never existed in the lifetime of Paul.

Fifth reason: the crucifixion was for Paul a kind of 'Toccata and fugue' event: the Son descended only to be killed rapidly and in incognito by the ''rulers of this age'', and it is difficult to see the Romans and/or the Jews as the killers insofar no reason is given for them crucify the first comer entered (apparently by pure chance) under the their view. Whereas the demons would have killed any being who was seen by them descend in their ''world'' (and therefore guilty and deserving of death only for this entry).


Therefore, in the original myth only the demons crucified Jesus (even if the crucifixion happened on the earth).
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.

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Re: 4 or 5 reasons why only demons crucified Jesus in the original myth

Post by lsayre » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:22 am

I figure that Barabbas is merely a later day corruption of Philo's Carabbas.

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Re: 4 or 5 reasons why only demons crucified Jesus in the original myth

Post by Giuseppe » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:29 am

lsayre wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:22 am
I figure that Barabbas is merely a later day corruption of Philo's Carabbas.
Karabas is not the more probable solution of the case Barabbas. Please read what the mythicist scholar Paul-Louis Couchoud condemns precisely in that hypothesis:
As for the bringing together of Barabbas-Karabas, when one examines
it closely, it does not lead to anything. Karabas appears to be a
regularly formed Semitic name; it was found in Palmyra in the form
Qeraba 2. And Barabbas does not share anything of the role of the
insane Alexandrian
. It is too much to add to the Gospels to imagine
with Frazer that after being released, he was gone from there by the
streets “dressed in bright and loud tinsels, a foil crown on
his head and a mock sceptre in his hand; followed by all the rabble of
the city which howled, laughed, launched force gibes while some, by
derision, addressed honorings to his false majesty and that others
whipped with turn of arm the ass on which he was seated. 3” The passage
is pretty, but it comes from Frazer and we have enough with the
fictions from the evangelists.

https://vridar.org/wp-content/uploads/2 ... r_engl.pdf
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.

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Re: 4 or 5 reasons why only demons crucified Jesus in the original myth

Post by Ethan » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:37 am

Demons is euphemism for Jews in the Catholic Church.
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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Re: 4 or 5 reasons why only demons crucified Jesus in the original myth

Post by Giuseppe » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:01 am

Ethan wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:37 am
Demons is euphemism for Jews in the Catholic Church.
But the Catholic Church is not the primitive church.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.

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