I'm not saying that the Roman bishop list cited by Eusebius and Irenaeus came from Hegesippus, only that Eusebius cites Hegesippus as saying he had "made a diadoche as far as Anicetus" regarding Roman bishops. And I'm not convinced that the Roman bishop list in Eusebius and Irenaeus came from Hegesippus. (I'm not sure if Irenaeus knew Hegesippus at all; does he ever mention or cite him?)Secret Alias wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:18 pmDoes he really? He cites Hegesippus as saying that when he came to Rome he wrote up a list of bishops of Rome but when Eusebius cites from the episcopal list of Rome or makes reference to the bishops (in the form that generally resembles the underlying chronology common to Hegesippus, Irenaeus et al) it is in the same anonymous manner as with the Jerusalem list. In other words, he does cite his source with either list, he doesn't say 'this is Hegesippus' for either the Jerusalem or Roman list.Eusebius clearly cites Hegesippus regarding these Roman bishops
This is the way I look at it. If Hegesippus was able to learn something about Roman bishops when he was in Rome, so could have Irenaeus (who, unlike Hegesippus, was a bishop himself). And like Eusebius, Irenaeus gives no indication that the list came from Hegesippus in AH 3.3.2-3, and Eusebius says he got his list from Irenaeus in EH 5.5.9:
Why would Eusebius cite Irenaeus about this and not Hegesippus if the list came from Hegesippus?In the third book of his work Against Heresies he has inserted a list of the bishops of Rome, bringing it down as far as Eleutherus (whose times we are now considering), under whom he composed his work. He writes as follows ...