The Marcionites Used Philippians 2 as a Creed

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Secret Alias
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The Marcionites Used Philippians 2 as a Creed

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I saw this in Against Marcion 2 today. Hadn't spend a lot of time reading this book (because it is so boring). But let's look at what Tertullian says:
But seeing that you yourselves have already stated your belief that a god has dwelt in human shape and in all the rest of what belongs to man's estate, you will assuredly not demand any further persuasion that God has in fact made himself conformable to human condition, but are confuted by virtue of your own creed (vestra fide revincimini). For if a god—I mean that more lofty one—did with such great humility so lay low the high estate of his majesty as to make it subject to death, even the death of a cross, why should you not agree that to our God also some few pettinesses were not inappropriate, being in any case less intolerable than the revilings, the scaffolds, and the sepulchres of the Jews?

Quatenus et ipsi deum in figura et in reliquo ordine humanae conditionis deversatum iam credidistis, non exigetis utique diutius persuaderi deum conformasse semetipsum humanitati, sed de vestra fide revincimini. Si enim deus, et quidem sublimior, tanta humilitate fastigium maiestatis suae stravit ut etiam morti subiceret, et morti crucis, cur non putetis nostro quoque deo aliquas pusillitates congruisse, tolerabiliores tamen Iudaicis contumeliis et patibulis et sepulcris?
Nicola and many others see Philippians 2 as a kind of proto-Nicene creed "In contradiction to the Nicene Creed, Paul does not consider Jesus ever to be human, He only took on the likeness (or appearance) of a human man (Philippians 2:7)."
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
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Re: The Marcionites Used Philippians 2 as a Creed

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Does Tertullian ever explicitly accept the epistles of Paul as canon?
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Re: The Marcionites Used Philippians 2 as a Creed

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With Tertullian you have to go book by book because he is copying out other writers and 'spiritually' adding new things to the old texts. In this text I don't know.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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