The case for 'Rulers of this world' as earthly rulers, from Amalekites to Romans

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The case for 'Rulers of this world' as earthly rulers, from Amalekites to Romans

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What if the (in)famous 'archontes' of 1 Cor 2:6-8 were yes the earthly rulers, only not the rulers of this precise recent day (a Pilate or a Caiaphas) but all the earthly rulers from the beginning of the world until to the Romans ?

They had persecuted (crucified) Israel (the real danielic 'Son of Man' and the real isaianic 'Suffering Servant of God') from Abraham forward.

if they had known the theosophy etc, they would have not 'crucified' Israel for such a long time.

Therefore now they are doomed, reduced to nothing.

So for Paul Jesus is the idealized Israel: the concrete Israel.

But this was esoteric knowledge, only for insiders (especially Jews, in the first stage of the cult).

The outsiders (especially gentiles, in the first stage of the cult) would have known only the preaching by Paul about a 'Jesus Christ, and him crucified': the first embryonic 'euhemerization' of an Idealized Israel in a single man, a Messiah crucified in the lower heavens (celestial mirror of the true Israel, this Israel).
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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What is advancing this theory, is that already with Paul 'Jesus Christ, and him crucified', was the deliberate invention of a Jewish group, to persuade the gentiles to subject themselves of their own decision under the guide of Israel (the real 'Jesus Crucified'), just before their (otherwise) final destruction.


So the outcome of this early process, once started (with the Pillars and Paul), could only be the gradual expansion of the portrait of this 'Jesus Christ, and him crucified'. And since the End didn't arrive, the creature was used against the his creator, in the later Gospels.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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The crucifixion could even be considered 'historical' - i.e., on the earth, pointing directly even (sic) to a specific man crucified by Pilate - but only after the fact and especially only after that the original sectarians had decided secretly the distinction between :

1) the milk for (gentile) babes: 'Jesus Christ, and him crucified'

2) and the solid food for (Jewish) perfects: 'the idealized Israel', the true 'body of Christ'.


Not more ''perfects'' around, only the obtuse babes remained… ...and the rest is History.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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