Is Joseph of Nazareth (who forgives Mary) allegory of the Jesus-Demiurge?

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Is Joseph of Nazareth (who forgives Mary) allegory of the Jesus-Demiurge?

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In particular, I see that usually Joseph is praised in the sermons since, in poor words, he doesn't kill Mary after her giving birth to another's child.

Even the Talmud ridiculizes Joseph for the his not taking violent solutions against the betrayal by the his wife/prostitute.

In a society highly dominated by males, a woman as Mary had to be punished hardly.

So it is implicit that Joseph did what he would not have done in the reality: to forgive Mary and to accept as his son the son of Mary and another father.


Now, if Mary is allegory of the Holy Spirit (afterall, she is the his mere vehicle), then Joseph is de facto submitting himself to a higher power.

Hence, we see a real KENOSIS by Joseph: he gives up to be violent against Mary, and recognizes that in Mary there is a Higher Power in action.

Just as in the Hymn to Philippians Jesus recognizes that there is a higher power and so he empties himself, etc.

As reward, Joseph becomes the adoptive father of Jesus, the Christ.

Hence there is a reversal adoptionism: it is not the Father who adopts the Son, but the Son (Jesus) who adopts the his (human) father.

This is allegory for Jesus of the Philippians Hymn, becoming, after the his conversion, the son of the good demiurge (the Jewish god) by receiving the name Kyrios (i.e. YHWH).

Therefore, if Joseph is the carpenter, the “demiurge”, then his forgiveness of Mary resembles the conversion of Sabaoth (thanks the action of Sophia, in the Hypostasis of the Archons), and his becoming the good demiurge in opposition to the bad demiurge Ialdabaoth.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Re: Is Joseph of Nazareth (who forgives Mary) allegory of the Jesus-Demiurge?

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But we know already that the accounts of the Birth of Jesus, Joe and Mary, etc, are mere anti-marcionite polemic, not found in the Earliest Gospel.

So which was the point of the proto-catholic interpolator of these stupid stories?

It is not only that now Jesus has a human Birth in anti-docetic function.

The point is that there is a implicit polemic against who adored Jesus as Second God with the First God, the Demiurge. If the carpenter Joseph (allegory of the Demiurge adored as Second God) forgives Mary (vehicle of the holy spirit of a higher god and hence allegory of Sophia) then the “Second God” ceases to be really the Second God and becomes euhemerized as a mere putative father of the Jesus the Son of the Only Creator God. In essentia: monotheism wins.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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