What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

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What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Secret Alias » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:54 am

So far I have

1. passing through crowds, flying (Luke chapter 4/Diatessaron/Marcionite interpretion)
2. Acts of John mention of John seeing Jesus change his shape
3. Judas kissing Jesus to identify him (interpretation of Gospel of Barnabas but must be older)
4. Simon Cyrene/Judas substitution tradition
5. Faustus 'taking on' the face of Simon Magus in Clementine tradition
6. the Marcionite epithet 'the Stranger' and 'strangeness'
7. Polycarp's identification viz. the Peregrinus tradition = Proteus

Any others come to mind?
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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Secret Alias » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:04 am

8. Irenaeus thinking that Jesus was 49 not in his 30s when crucified?
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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Secret Alias » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:04 am

9. the people at the end of Luke who didn't recognize Jesus after the resurrection
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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Secret Alias » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:04 am

10. the Legion narrative (because it suggests that Jesus had another form)
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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Secret Alias » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:05 am

11. the I AM narrative where Jesus says he was before Abraham in John
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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Charles Wilson » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:13 pm

John 1: 31 - 34 (RSV):

[31] I myself did not know him; but for this I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel."
[32] And John bore witness, "I saw the Spirit descend as a dove from heaven, and it remained on him.
[33] I myself did not know him; but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, `He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.'
[34] And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God."

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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Secret Alias » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:28 pm

WTF does this have to do with Jesus being a shapeshifter?
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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by g_n_o_s_i_s » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:06 pm

"Straightway, while I was contemplating these things, behold, the heavens opened and the whole creation which is below heaven shone, and the world was shaken. I was afraid, and behold I saw in the light a youth who stood by me. While I looked at him, he became like an old man. And he changed his likeness (again), becoming like a servant. There was not a plurality before me, but there was a likeness with multiple forms in the light, and the likenesses appeared through each other, and the likeness had three forms."

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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Secret Alias » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:40 pm

Yup good one. Thanks
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Re: What Evidence or What Suggestions Are There that Jesus Was a Shapeshifter?

Post by Peter Kirby » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:16 pm

The clothes might not be very remarkable, but the word choice here (same root as our 'metamorphosis') ties in with your theme.

Mark 9:2-3 - "Transfiguration"

2 After six days Jesus took Peter, James and John with him and led them up a high mountain, where they were all alone. There he was transfigured [μετεμορφώθη] before them. 3 His clothes became dazzling white, whiter than anyone in the world could bleach them.
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