Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:59 am
Charles Wilson wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:41 am
Alas, he is intercepted and is Crucified, perhaps in Caesarea, where substantial tessellated/mosaic tile has been found (See GJohn.).
This would be the real, historical crucifixion of a real, historical person, correct?
John 19: 13 (Moffatt):
On hearing this, Pilate brought Jesus out and seated him on the tribunal at a spot called the 'mosaic pavement' — the Hebrew name is Gabbatha
[NOTE: "Golgotha" and "Gabbatha" are within a few verses of each other in GJohn. "Gabbatha" is a single appearance word. Bauscher, who wants nothing to do with me, states that "Gabbatha" is a "one-way" transliteration. It works only moving from Hebrew to Greek. Threrefore, it was written for effect. My view: "Golgotha" and "Gabbatha" point to "Galba-Otho".]
https://www.google.com/search?q=picture ... 20&bih=929
Mosaic Tile from Jerusalem: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... jerusalem/
It reads as a Noir Story and has details that VERY FEW knew.
1. If it is a Story written in Hebrew/Aramaic: There would be plenty of Semiticisms as it was translated into Greek. There are many of those Semiticisms in the NT texts. Are there enough to justify Jewish Authorship? More importantly, would this Story have been an ACTUAL Story written by someone who was there or close to it? See the Peshitta followers who argue most sincerely that the NT was not authored in Greek but Aramaic. See: Peshitta.org.
2. Authorship may be assigned to Nicholas of Damascus (Perhaps dba "Nico-di'-mas) This is a good possibility and argues for Greek authorship of the NT with enough Hebrew language knowledge to account for what we see as regards to Semiticisms. NoD was in Jerusalem for many years with Herod and son Archelaus. He certainly was a "Ruler of the Jews" as Nicodemus was and it is very reasonable to see that this "Ruler" was, in fact Nicholas of Damascus - He doesn't understand a Jewish Idiom "Born Again". It points to a word that goes back to Sumer and means "Return to Mother". Kramer sees this as the first written use of the word that comes to us as "Freedom".
This argues for the Story as a Novel, with a Real Tableau but a modified description of events that Could-Have-Happened. Oddly, the character John appears Real while the "Jesus"-Construct shows evidence of being manufactured.
3. If Josephus, it was written at some distance in time from events @ 4 BCE to authorship in the 90's and later. Linguistic analysis would be a little Iffy at best since Josephus has been...ummm...polished, shall we say.
4. Zakkai: A big possibility since he was an actual Priest-Who-Survived. When given Yavneh by Vespasian, he may have had to Promise to help with the details of what was to follow. There are details that Zakkai would probably have known that others would not. I speculate that the 2 Passages "You must turn as a child..." and "Enter Through the Narrow Door" are one Story and only a few such as Zakkai would have known that.
5. Moby Dick took place on an ocean and oceans certainly existed. Details of whaling ships were known but mere knowledge of this is no guarantee that there was an epic search for the White Whale. The NT certainly and I mean certainly provides knowledge of the Mishmarot Priesthood and also the Mishmarot SETTLEMENTS, especially Immer and Jehoiarib. Josephus provides information here in giving the date of the Fall of the Temple, which gives a nod to Zakkai and the other Priestly Survivors. See Also: Rabbi Jose. However, again, knowledge of details is not knowledge of actual events that may have happened.
6. I may add more.
My guess is that there was a Priest who was Crucified but that the Story was written as a Novel. The Main Character is the child Peter, and the Story was told from his perspective. I believe that Peter accompanies and survives the Return of the Priest 12 years after the 4 BCE Massacre, which Peter would have witnessed as a child. It is also possible that Peter becomes a Priest and it is Peter who gets Crucified but the end of the Story becomes very hidden. GJohn "corrects" the Synoptics but there are the deaths of Galba, Otho and Vitellius that are recorded in John, not the correct version of the 4 BCE Massacre and the 9 CE Aftermath.
In short, Ben, I dunno. I would rather believe that the NT is a Story of an actual Priest who was Crucified with Peter watching and growing to adulthood. The Beatitudes are written after Peter contemplates the last cry of the Priest: "My God, my God, for this was I spared?" All he knows are the Repetitions of the Priestly Code at the Temple. He finishes out his days Performing his Service. "Why?..Why?..." Over and over.
See also: Slaughterhouse Five
and especially Catch-22
at the Death of Snowden. Catch-22 is the Inversion of Ecclesiastes and Ecclesiastes Motifs are found all over the NT.