Reza Aslan: Jesus as a zealot

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Re: Reza Aslan: Jesus as a zealot

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It seems that the Newsweek article on Dale Martin's "Jesus in Jerusalem: Armed and Not Dangerous" is causing some reaction.....(Journal for the Study of the New Testament.). Reza Aslan must be pleased with himself that his book is generating such debate....


Armed and Dangerous?
http://simonjjoseph.blogspot.co.uk/2014 ... erous.html

A Reply to Dale Martin's JSNT Essay (Part 1)
http://historicaljesusresearch.blogspot ... -part.html
Another Response to Dale Martin’s Piece (Skinner)

SEPTEMBER 24, 2014 CHRISTOPHER SKINNER LEAVE A COMMENT

Yesterday over at the Jesus Blog, the guys posted a response by S. Brian Pounds to Dale Martin’s recent article in JSNT suggesting that Jesus and his followers were armed and were participants in a failed armed revolt. I am waiting to read the response until I finish Martin’s article, but I also wanted to point out Simon Joseph’s response, which was posted on his blog yesterday afternoon. Looks like this article (and it’s coverage in a major public news source) will be fodder for some very interesting discussion in the weeks ahead. All of this is unfolding well ahead of the annual SBL meeting, where I expect this will be a topic of discussion, at the very least over coffee or drinks.
http://cruxsolablog.com/2014/09/24/anot ... e-skinner/
Armed and Pre-Existent?
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringo ... stent.html

Jesus Was Crucified Because Disciples Were Armed, Bible Analysis Suggests

Jesus may have been crucified because his followers were carrying weapons, according to a scholarly analysis of New Testament books.

Dale Martin, a professor of religious studies at Yale University, says that this aspect of stories about Jesus, as told in the gospels, has received too little attention, but could alone explain Jesus’s execution and also show that the man from Nazareth was not the pacifist he’s usually made out to be.

http://www.newsweek.com/jesus-was-cruci ... sts-271436
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Dale Martin's review of Reza Aslan' book Zealot.

Still a Firebrand, 2,000 Years Later
‘Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth’


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/06/books ... d=all&_r=0

Reza Aslan ‏on twitter:

Jesus Was Crucified Because Disciples Were Armed, Bible Analysis Suggests. By guy who criticized me for saying same http://www.newsweek.com/jesus-was-cruci ... sts-271436

Anyone with access to the whole of Dale Martin's article in JSNT?

http://jnt.sagepub.com/content/37/1/3?etoc
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Part 2 of a response to Dale Martin in now up.


A Reply to Dale Martin's JSNT Essay (Part 2)

Dr. Pounds offered part one of his two-part response to Dale Martin's recent JSNT essay. Here is the second installment:

In sum, Martin's proposal that Jesus and his armed disciples attempted to participate in an apocalyptic battle suffers from the same fundamental improbabilities as previous attempts to construct Jesus as a rebel. His subsidiary arguments are not conclusive enough to overturn these improbabilities. Space does not permit discussion of the problem posed to Martin's hypothesis by the non-violent Jesus of the double tradition (Matt 5:39–42; Luke 6:29–30).

http://historicaljesusresearch.blogspot ... essay.html

Reza Aslan' book Zealot is now in paperback.
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