Cerinthos and the 'horns' קרנ = קרנת sing. 'horn'

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Cerinthos and the 'horns' קרנ = קרנת sing. 'horn'

Post by Secret Alias » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:41 am

“And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin-offering with his finger, and put it on the horns (קרנת) of the altar” (Leviticus 4:25); and “The priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it on the horns (קרנת) of the altar” (Leviticus 4:30); and again: “The priest shall take of the blood of the sin-offering with his finger, and put it on the horns (קרנת) of the altar” (Leviticus 4:34).
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Re: Cerinthos and the 'horns' קרנ = קרנת sing. 'horn'

Post by Ethan » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:14 am

Cerinthos (Κήρινθος) is a town in Euboea and appears in Homer's Iliad 2.538, the secondary definition is bee-bread therefore the root is κηρός which is צור in Biblical Hebrew.

צור נצת Κήρινθος
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Re: Cerinthos and the 'horns' קרנ = קרנת sing. 'horn'

Post by Secret Alias » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:54 am

No. I don't know why I am arguing with you. But it would seem that the origin of that word kerinthos is Anatolian:

From κηρός prob. as LW [loanword] Lat. cēra (-a after tabella, crēta; details in W.-Hofmann s. v.); from Lat. cēreolus Gr. κηρίολος `wax-candle' (Ephesos IIp). The word κήρινθος `bee-bread' seems Pre-Greek. Wrong Huld in EIEC 637
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Re: Cerinthos and the 'horns' קרנ = קרנת sing. 'horn'

Post by Ethan » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:11 am

Thus Κήρινθος is unrelated too קרנת

Leviticus 4:43 קרנת מזבח 'horns of the altar'

The word קרנת here is an adjective, thus the homologue would be with κερατίνας (κερατών) 'made of horn'.

Plutarch, Theseus 21 (an altar on Delos)
Theseus danced it round the altar called Keraton, which is constructed of horns ( ‘kerata’) taken entirely from the left side of the head.
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Re: Cerinthos and the 'horns' קרנ = קרנת sing. 'horn'

Post by Ben C. Smith » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:20 am

Ethan wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:11 am
Leviticus 4:43 קרנת מזבח 'horns of the altar'

The word קרנת here is an adjective....
It is a noun.
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Re: Cerinthos and the 'horns' קרנ = קרנת sing. 'horn'

Post by Ethan » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:43 am

The adjective would be קרון
קרנת מזבח — τᾶς κερατῶνας τοῦ θυσιαστηρίου

The fifth definition of κέρας 'of objects shaped like horns' either it was made of horns or shaped like horns, else the homologue is with κράς (κράτων) or κράσπεδον 'edge, border, skirt'.
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Re: Cerinthos and the 'horns' קרנ = קרנת sing. 'horn'

Post by Secret Alias » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:55 pm

It is interesting that Semitic and Indo-European languages have similar words for 'horn.'
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