Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:11 pm
klewis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:00 am
Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:04 am
Revelation 11 is about the Kitos revolt. The two witnesses were Julian and Pappus, who were killed in Lod. Their
kyrios was Lukuas-Andreas, who was crucified, in all probability, there as well.
This is one of thousands of interpretations. It makes the assumption that chapter 11 is talking about a single event and the author is aware of the event you are talking about as well as using the phrases needed for the connection.
My very first post was an exegesis on chapter 11:
http://www.earlywritings.com/forum/view ... tos#p77953
The chapter is not talking about Jesus Christ proper, and everything points to it being the Kito revolt. (The earthquake and the trumpets, which are the same thing, is a big give away.)
Also, I don't understand your objection. Obviously if my interpretation is correct then the author would be talking about that event, would be aware of it, and would use the proper phrases to make the allusion. Your argument is needlessly skewed and one sided.
I look at the construction of Revelation completely different from anyone on the planet. The process I used is to reverse engineer the book of Revelation based up the simple idea when Hebrew Poetry is formed, it is formed perfectly, and when it is malformed, something caused it to be malformed. The book of Revelation also uses the techniques of Hebrew Poetry to copy from the Hebrew Scriptures. With this process, I call Genetic Literary Reconstruction (GLR), I have produced logical drafts of the book of Revelation.
The beauty of GLR is that you get to see how the author creates its work and how it was developed draft by draft.
For example, chapter 12 of Revelation, originally came from Isaiah chapter 6 to 9. The source material is consistent to what any Christian would use at the time of the writing of Revelation and to this day as proof texts for Jesus. We also get the source of the "tenth of the city destroyed" found in Revelation 11.
The author of Revelation wrapped up chapter 11 and 12 as a single entity within the 42 month, 1260 day, 3 1/2 day parallel. The origin of the parallel came from the book of Ezekiel used to depict how long the siege of Jerusalem would take.
When John added Zechariah into the book of Revelation we get Joshua and Zerubabel, and Satan makes his debut into the book of Revelation.
When John added Joshua and Deuteronomy into the book of Revelation, chapter 11 grew as well. It is where we get the trumpets and the earthquake and the ark of the covenant.
The addition of Deuteronomy-Joshua material created the imagery of Joshua marching on Jericho. Since Jericho was depicted as an evil city and the Hebrews came from Egypt. It is not much of a stretch to the author to use Egypt and Sodom in the description.
There are more I can go into in this literary journey. Obviously, I did in my book. However, I think I covered enough material to show that I did study this passage. Much of the symbols that you mentioned were added from the source material provided in the order that they were added. There are places where he diverges from the source material and that divergence tells us he is adapting it for the reality of the day. For example, the calculations from Ezekiel on how long the siege would last (in Ezekiel 4) was change to last how long the war against the Jews lasted. Another example is the four chariots found in Zechariah 6:1-8 was changed to the four horsemen found in Revelation 6:1-8 -- yes they are the same chapter in verse. The reason, being is is that horsemen were used for warfare in John's time and chariots were used in Zechariah's time.