Historic Jesus/Y'shua born 17 April 6 BC, cruc 7 April 30 AD

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Brad Watson, Miami
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Historic Jesus/Y'shua born 17 April 6 BC, cruc 7 April 30 AD

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The historic Jesus son of Joseph was born on April 17, 6 BC / 17.4.748 AUC (see astronomer http://MichaelMolnar.com ). Y'shua bar Yosef received 39 lashes and was crucified on Friday April 7, 30 AD / 7.4.783 AUC / 14 Nisan 3090 HC. He was then 34-years-old and turned 35 ten days later. The Jewish Messiah spent a record low of just three hours on the Cross. Apparently dead, he did not have his legs broken like the other two crucified with him. But God-incarnate didn't die on the Cross: death is final (dictionary definition). Y'shua had a near-death experience (term coined in 1974). After being taken down from the Cross before sun-set (of the Sabbath), he appeared about 37 hours later at sun-rise on Sun-day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience

God-incarnated hung around Jerusalem and Galilee for 40 days, and then departed from the Roman Empire for his own safety. One legend has him going to Britain (Glastonbury) with Joseph Arimathea. Another legend has him going to Kashmir.

Jesus died sometime between 30-70 AD. His bones were put in an ossuary which was placed in the Jesus Family Tomb on the highest hill in East Talpiot between Jerusalem and Bethlehem. The nine original Knights Templar discovered his tomb c. 1128 and important scrolls beneath the Temple Mount. They went to the pope with their findings and were granted great status and privileges!

The Jesus Family Tomb remained sealed until right before Easter in April 1980 when a construction bulldozer accidentally uncovered it, but it was no coincidence!
http://JesusFamilyTomb.com
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So the ossuaries that were found there specifically state they found a Jesus? Odd, not what I have read.
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He was born around 100 BC and died in 44 BC. The family tomb is about two floors under the center of the main altar of Saint Peter's basilica. His tomb is in the Forum Romanum.
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Brad Watson, Miami wrote:The historic Jesus son of Joseph was born on April 17, 6 BC / 17.4.748 AUC (see astronomer http://MichaelMolnar.com ). Y'shua bar Yosef received 39 lashes and was crucified on Friday April 7, 30 AD / 7.4.783 AUC / 14 Nisan 3090 HC. He was then 34-years-old and turned 35 ten days later. The Jewish Messiah spent a record low of just three hours on the Cross. Apparently dead, he did not have his legs broken like the other two crucified with him. But God-incarnate didn't die on the Cross: death is final (dictionary definition). Y'shua had a near-death experience (term coined in 1974). After being taken down from the Cross before sun-set (of the Sabbath), he appeared about 37 hours later at sun-rise on Sun-day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience

God-incarnated hung around Jerusalem and Galilee for 40 days, and then departed from the Roman Empire for his own safety. One legend has him going to Britain (Glastonbury) with Joseph Arimathea. Another legend has him going to Kashmir.

Jesus died sometime between 30-70 AD. His bones were put in an ossuary which was placed in the Jesus Family Tomb on the highest hill in East Talpiot between Jerusalem and Bethlehem. The nine original Knights Templar discovered his tomb c. 1128 and important scrolls beneath the Temple Mount. They went to the pope with their findings and were granted great status and privileges!

The Jesus Family Tomb remained sealed until right before Easter in April 1980 when a construction bulldozer accidentally uncovered it, but it was no coincidence!
http://JesusFamilyTomb.com
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Brad Watson, Miami wrote:The historic Jesus son of Joseph was born on April 17, 6 BC / 17.4.748 AUC (see astronomer http://MichaelMolnar.com ). Y'shua bar Yosef received 39 lashes and was crucified on Friday April 7, 30 AD / 7.4.783 AUC / 14 Nisan 3090 HC.
Everything is wrong with this. It's perfectly clear that the Aramaic behind Lk 2:7 was 'bara maryh et-yalad yehoshua bada bng' (which the bi-lingual Luke translated incorrectly), it should be translated as "And Mary gave birth to Jesus on March 15, 5 BC". A competent, non-American scholar should know this!
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Wrong.

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Nah; Pilate Purple, in the Chapel, with the X
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The Crow wrote:So the ossuaries that were found there specifically state they found a Jesus? Odd, not what I have read.
The Crow,

Yes, they most certainly found the Y'shua ossuary. I don't know what you read, but it was misinformation; possibly even a lie! Have you been to http://JesusFamilyTomb.com ? I AM assuming you haven't read the book Jesus Family Tomb or seen the DVD with the same title. You should do some real research.
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Well, the 7th of April AD30 crucifixion sounds about right.

The other stuff sounds a bit weird tho. :eh:
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Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
The Crow wrote:So the ossuaries that were found there specifically state they found a Jesus? Odd, not what I have read.
The Crow,

Yes, they most certainly found the Y'shua ossuary. I don't know what you read, but it was misinformation; possibly even a lie! Have you been to http://JesusFamilyTomb.com ? I AM assuming you haven't read the book Jesus Family Tomb or seen the DVD with the same title. You should do some real research.
I have. Problem being if what they say is true it shoots the jesus coming from the dead in the foot.
In 2003, the Israeli police arrested Oded Golan on suspicion of forging antiquities; they found his home and a workshop he rented filled with forged objects in various stages of manufacture together with the equipment needed to make the objects. He eventually confessed his guilt during questioning, but denied the charges during his trial in 2004. He was, nevertheless, found guilty.
http://www.badarchaeology.com/?page_id=923

Forgery seems to be a common theme in christianity doesn't it.
Forgeries purporting to confirm some of these details have been around since the first development of the religion and continue to be produced today.
http://www.badarchaeology.com/?page_id=923

http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.c ... s-and.html
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