which is totally and gratuitously false, since the following words are sic et simpliciter of Celsus, not of Origen and not even filtered by Origen:
I am sorry, but according to your same incipit, "to begin with", you have failed to persuade me that we don't have Celsus's direct words. Hence my claim continues to be correct: Celsus claims independent knowledge of Marcionites, and Celsus reports that their supreme god is "in opposition" to YHWH.
I see that you are totally unaware of Greek language, too.
"In opposition" translates the Greek ἐναντίον. This is its precise meaning:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicon ... ntion.html
Hence all your vain apologies can't escape/avoid the clear truth: the Marcion's supreme god was "opposed as an adversary, hostile, antagonistic" against YHWH, who is therefore only a bastard demiurge.
said by one who ignores deliberately the meaning of ἐναντίον, I take your words as a compliment and a recognition of my superiority.
About criterion of embarrassment, it is evident that a god abandoning Jesus on the cross without make him risen is a cruel god. Which is embarrassing. Therefore, by applying the criterion of embarrassment, I infer that the older belief was that a bastard god conspired against Jesus and that god was the creator, the god of the Jews.