The Relationship between "Jairus' Daughter", "The Woman..." and Mark 6

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The Relationship between "Jairus' Daughter", "The Woman..." and Mark 6

Post by Charles Wilson » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:09 am

I don't want to mudge up Martin Klatt's fine Thread. The following is important for what it implies, however, and points to another Interpretation.
This Important Point is simply that there are Two Stories separated by 12 years. The 2 Stories were "telescoped" into one Story.

The Scene opens with Jairus, a "Ruler of the Synagogue" (See also: "Nic-O-Demas". Mark and John are joined closer than might first appear). This might have been the Opening for a Document that became the NT (Another Possibility: Luke 9).

Mark 5: Verses quoted Rearranged for Explication:

[22] Then came one of the rulers of the synagogue, Ja'irus by name; and seeing him, he fell at his feet,
[23] and besought him, saying, "My little daughter is at the point of death. Come and lay your hands on her, so that she may be made well, and live."
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[34] And he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace, and be healed of your disease."
[35] While he was still speaking, there came from the ruler's house some who said, "Your daughter is dead. Why trouble the Teacher any further?"
[36] But ignoring what they said, Jesus said to the ruler of the synagogue, "Do not fear, only believe."
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[42] And immediately the girl got up and walked (she was twelve years of age), and they were immediately overcome with amazement.
[43] And he strictly charged them that no one should know this, and told them to give her something to eat.

The girl is twelve years old.

Please note: "Jesus said to the ruler of the synagogue, "Do not fear, only believe."
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[25] And there was a woman who had had a flow of blood for twelve years,
[26] and who had suffered much under many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was no better but rather grew worse.
[27] She had heard the reports about Jesus, and came up behind him in the crowd and touched his garment.
[28] For she said, "If I touch even his garments, I shall be made well."
[29] And immediately the hemorrhage ceased; and she felt in her body that she was healed of her disease.
[30] And Jesus, perceiving in himself that power had gone forth from him, immediately turned about in the crowd, and said, "Who touched my garments?"
[31] And his disciples said to him, "You see the crowd pressing around you, and yet you say, `Who touched me?'"
[32] And he looked around to see who had done it.
[33] But the woman, knowing what had been done to her, came in fear and trembling and fell down before him, and told him the whole truth.
[34] And he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace, and be healed of your disease."

The woman had a flow of blood for 12 years.

If you believe that a "Jesus" actually did raise a girl from the dead and cured a Woman who had a 12 year Period/Cycle, then go your way. We agree to disagree. If you may entertain another alternative, a Symbolic Alternative, examine this, PLZ:

The Woman touches the garments, not Jesus! I take this to mean that the garments, though not "Magical", play a Role in this that is perfectly consistent with a large swath of the Jewish Culture at that time. In this case, a wearer of these clothes covers the nakedness of the Nation. This is a Story of the Priesthood.

Finally, note the Internal Dialogues, the reference to Internal States.
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Now, please examine the differences in Mark 6: 46 - 50, 54 - 56 (RSV):

[45] Then he made the disciples at once embark in the boat and cross before him towards Bethsaida, while he dismissed the crowd;
[46] and after saying goodbye to them he went up the hill to pray.
[47] Now when evening came the boat was in the middle of the sea, and he was on the land alone ;
[48] but when he saw them buffeted as they rowed (for the wind was against them) he went to them about the fourth
watch of the night walking on the sea. He meant to pass them,
[49] but when they saw him walking on the sea they thought it was a ghost and shrieked aloud —
[50] for they all saw him and were terrified. Then he spoke to them at once; " Courage," he said, " it is I, have no fear."
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[54] And when they got out of the boat, immediately the people recognized him,
[55] and ran about the whole neighborhood and began to bring sick people on their pallets to any place where they heard he was.
[56] And wherever he came, in villages, cities, or country, they laid the sick in the market places, and besought him that they might touch even the fringe of his garment; and as many as touched it were made well.

This is Objective/Descriptive, except for verse 49. Even this, however, appears different ("To me"...). Verse 49 may be seen as, "The Priest should have been dead but was seen by those in Antonia. He was alive."

This is a different event. It's a Military Event ("Fourth Watch"). Jesus is not in a crowd. There is no "12 Years" label mentioned Yet, there is the Story of touching the tassels or fringes of the Garment.

Luke 13: 16 (RSV)

[16] And ought not this woman, a daughter of Abraham whom Satan bound for eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?"

In Martin Klatt's thread, I mentioned that "Daughter of Abraham" may have been a "Lukan Flourish" and it may well be. "Daughter", however, carries over consistently throughout the Texts.

These Stories in Mark are two distinct Stories, probably from 2 separate Authors. Their Styles are "Personal/Internal" and "Objective/Descriptive". The Stories are separated by 12 years. They were "telescoped" into one Story for the NT.

CW

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Re: The Relationship between "Jairus' Daughter", "The Woman..." and Mark 6

Post by Giuseppe » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:14 am

The "woman who had had a flow of blood for twelve years" is a Marcionite parody against the Judaizers:

just they who wanted to touch a carnal Jesus are satifisfied: only, it is sufficient only the touch of the garment of Jesus to heal them (allegorized by the woman), not even the touch of flesh and blood Jesus was necessary.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.

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