The possibility is raised by this point:
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103130.htm
Within the Symbolic Story guidelines, Joseph D. L. is correct. The Hasmonean Dynasty is DEAD. It has been dead for "Four Days". Beyond this time a body cannot be Resurrected. "Jesus", however, may do what even God cannot. He will Resurrect Lazarus - ELEAZAR - and Transplant the Priesthood into Rome.Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:53 am Lazarus is likely the original resurrection. It's the main point of convergence between John, Mark, Secret Mark. The Parable of the Rich Man's Son in Luke is based on Lazarus.
The implication is that in the original Gospel, Jesus died and remained dead.
Lazarus is Antinous. When Antinous died in Egypt he was immediately identified with Osiris, meaning he underwent the same ritualistic process as Osiris. (Yes, even if he died in the Nile, as those who died in the Nile were believed to be as ritualistically prepared for the afterlife as those who were mummified. )Charles Wilson wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:45 am Within the Symbolic Story guidelines, Joseph D. L. is correct. The Hasmonean Dynasty is DEAD. It has been dead for "Four Days". Beyond this time a body cannot be Resurrected. "Jesus", however, may do what even God cannot. He will Resurrect Lazarus - ELEAZAR - and Transplant the Priesthood into Rome.
CW
My knowledge of Osiris has thus far been mediated principally through secondary sources. What are the primary sources for the above points? I would be interested in catching up on them. Thanks.Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:39 pmLazarus is Antinous. When Antinous died in Egypt he was immediately identified with Osiris, meaning he underwent the same ritualistic process as Osiris. (Yes, even if he died in the Nile, as those who died in the Nile were believed to be as ritualistically prepared for the afterlife as those who were mummified. )
* Lazarus has two sisters who mourn for him / Osiris has two sisters who mourn him.
* Lazarus is dead for four days / Osiris is dead for four days
* Jesus commands Lazarus to rise and come out of his tomb / Horus commands Osiris to stand up and walk out of his tomb
* The earliest artwork of Lazarus show him as a mummy
Yo Ben. Been a while.Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:27 amMy knowledge of Osiris has thus far been mediated principally through secondary sources. What are the primary sources for the above points? I would be interested in catching up on them. Thanks.Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:39 pmLazarus is Antinous. When Antinous died in Egypt he was immediately identified with Osiris, meaning he underwent the same ritualistic process as Osiris. (Yes, even if he died in the Nile, as those who died in the Nile were believed to be as ritualistically prepared for the afterlife as those who were mummified. )
* Lazarus has two sisters who mourn for him / Osiris has two sisters who mourn him.
* Lazarus is dead for four days / Osiris is dead for four days
* Jesus commands Lazarus to rise and come out of his tomb / Horus commands Osiris to stand up and walk out of his tomb
* The earliest artwork of Lazarus show him as a mummy
ETA: I mean the sources for Osiris. I have seen the Lazarus artwork from the catacombs.
Okay, thanks.Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:55 amThe primary sources are the funerary texts, the big three being the Pyramid Texts, Coffin Texts, and Book of the Dead. Then you have subsidiary texts, like the Am Duat, Book of Caverns, Book of Gates, Book of the Earth, Book of the Sky, Book of the Heavenly Cow, Enigmatic Books of the Netherworld, etc. And then you have the Hellenistic Books for Traversing Eternity. And add in a whole bunch of inscriptions, papyrus, and what not, like the Edfu ritual texts, the Triumph of Horus, and texts from Abydos and Heliopolis and Thebes. There is simply too much to go over, which is why I link to Boswell's blog because he covers this better than I could ever hope to.
As far as the Lazarus/Osiris connection goes, you can just read the Pyramid Texts and you'll be set. (I prefer Faulkner's translation over Allen's because Allen is literal while Faulkner is contextual.) Everything is in there, and subsisted well into the Hellenistic era.