On Mark 15:34 and Separationism: where an anti-YHWH is a pro-YHWH and vice versa

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On Mark 15:34 and Separationism: where an anti-YHWH is a pro-YHWH and vice versa

Post by Giuseppe » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:56 am

  • FACT 1: Separationism is based on the idea of a cosmic Cross in heaven
  • FACT 2: Last words of Jesus in Mark are based on Psalm 22.
  • FACT 3: Gnostics applied Separationism on the last words of Jesus in Mark that are based on Psalm 22.
How much is it possible as a mere coincidence, that the separationist idea, born independently from the Gospels, would find a quasi natural application in a verse based very probably on the Psalm 22?

Best answer: it is not a coincidence.

Two possibilities:
  • The verse based on Psalm 22 was precisely THAT verse because it served to mask the separationist idea by a OT verse.
  • The verse based on Psalm 22 was precisely THAT verse because it served to allegorize the separationist idea by a OT verse.
My suspectous nature leads me to incline dangerously towards the first possibility.

But afterall all is possible.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.

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Re: On Mark 15:34 and Separationism: where an anti-YHWH is a pro-YHWH and vice versa

Post by Giuseppe » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:10 am

The coincidence-that-is-not-a-coincidence says us that "Mark" had wanted to judaize Gnostic concepts by showing them as midrash from Jewish scriptures.

But the coincidence-that-is-not-a-coincidence can't say us if "Mark" worked so against the Gnostics or being himself secretly a Gnostic.

The same problem is raised by the author of this meme:

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In this case, is Bergoglio addressing only the insiders?

Or is he christianizing a Masonic simbology against Masons?

Or is it only a mere coincidence?

In the Gospel case, this couldn't be a mere coincidence, for the three facts above.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.

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