Re: Bilby: a mix of fine exegesis and naive historicism
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:26 am
Looks like a post of yours got hung up in moderation for a while. That can happen to a newly enrolled forum member.
I have watched Star Wars (the original trilogy plus the follow-up trilogy decades later; nothing after that). I watched Spaceballs once late at night when I was a late teenager, got little out of it, and for the most part have forgotten about it since then. However, I have had friends who say, "May the Schwartz be with you," and I have always been pretty sure from context that Spaceballs was their source.vocesanticae wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:44 amGood point. Not all signals are clear. That's why it's crucial to analyze hundreds of signals and their synthesizing journeys over time so as to delineate textual strata clearly.Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:29 amIn this case, because of my awareness of how puns work, I would probably stack them in the order 3, 1, 2 (original, pun, explanation of pun). But that is only because I know how puns (usually) work in English.vocesanticae wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:49 pmFor example, if I gave you three statements, how would you order them sequentially as to when they first emerged in history and how they are related to each other?
1. "May the schwartz be with you."
2. "The schwartz, the force, same difference."
3. "May the force be with you.
What about something like this?
1. Presidents Lincoln and Kennedy were great Presidents.
2. Presidents Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan were great Presidents.
3. Presidents Lincoln and Reagan were great Presidents.
In this case, I would have no idea, because preferences for which Presidents are great can vary from person to person. Maybe person 1 made an assertion, person 2 added a name to the list, and then person 3 agreed with the addition but disagreed with one of the original names. Maybe that exact same process happened in the order 3, 2, 1. Maybe person 2 started with a full list, but persons 1 and 3 each removed the paradigmatic member of the political party to which each belonged (Republican or Democrat). Maybe person 3 named two Presidents, person 1 proposed an alternative for the more modern of the two, and person 3 said, "No, they were all great." Maybe that same thing happened in the order 1, 3, 2. I cannot tell.
By the way, you got the sequence right! Nice job! Have you seen Star Wars? Spaceballs? Did you look at their release date?
No. I did no searching.Did you do a Google search on #2.