Oh dear, Stephen, it seems Antigonus is just too much for you to handle - along with Greg Doudna of course.StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:38 am If one dates the earliest mentions (in texts that may possibly be copies of earlier ones) of the Wicked Priest and theTeacher of Righteousness before 76 BCE, then identifications with Antigonus or his brother Hyrcanus II would seem unlikely.
Yes, you have your own theory on the Wicked Priest of the DSS - as does Greg - so why not let scholarship take its course instead of getting on your high horse at the mention of Antigonus and Greg Doudna.
Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene
Stephen Goranson
http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/jannaeus.pdf
IN PESHER NAHUM (4Q169)
Gregory L. Doudna
In his death at the hands of gentiles
Antigonus Mattathias corresponds with the portrayal of the death of
the Wicked Priest, and Antigonus Mattathias is the only Hasmonean
ruler of the first century bce who does.
And so it seems to me that the wicked ruler of these texts reflects
Antigonus Mattathias, and that the Lion of Wrath alludes to Mark
Antony who hung up alive Antigonus and perhaps other members of
Antigonus’s regime similarly unremarked in Josephus, and that key
Qumran pesharim such as Pesher Habakkuk, Pesher Psalms A, Pesher
Nahum, Pesher Hosea B and others all allude in their various ways to
the downfall of this last Hasmonean ruler, Antigonus Mattathias. And
it is surprising to me that this suggestion seems to be new. Despite
the striking correspondences between Antigonus Mattathias and the
Wicked Priest just named and no obvious counter-indication, so far as
I have been able to discover there has never previously been a scholarly
suggestion that the Wicked Priest might allude to Antigonus Mattathias.
And in asking how Antigonus Mattathias was missed I am
including myself, for I too missed this in my study of Pesher Nahum
of 2001. Now let us return to Pesher Nahum again.
https://www.academia.edu/12144236/_All ... 169_2011_
Antigonus, the last King and the High Priest of the Jews. Executed by the Roman Marc Antony in 37 b.c. The end of the Hasmonean Dynasty. Yes, it's very difficult for those upholding a historical Jesus, crucified by the Roman Pilate, to acknowledge the fate of a historical King of the Jews. A King of the Jews that fought against Rome - a 'zealot' Jesus figure. Indeed, those gospel writers had this historical template front and centre as they wrote their Jesus story. Of course, there is more to the gospel Jesus story than an execution by Roman agents. But, nevertheless, a Roman execution of a King of the Jews is a primary aspect of that gospel Jesus story. And, no, Jannaeus, is no model for the Jesus story the gospel writers created. Antigonus is. And if Antigonus was front and centre for the gospel writers - how much more so for the writers of the DSS. A priest, like his father, that contributed to the civil war between his father and his uncle, a civil war that lead to the downfall of the Hasmonean dynasty. Enough 'wickedness' going on there for any Hyrcanus supporters to decry the 'wicked' son of Aristobulus.