If gMark is understood as response to Marcion, then even more so against Gnosticism preceding Marcion

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If gMark is understood as response to Marcion, then even more so against Gnosticism preceding Marcion

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And, why would the author of gMark begin his ‘gospel’ with the very Jewish character of John the Baptist? Early Christian critics of Marcion allege that Marcion distanced Jesus from the Hebrew religion, god, and scriptures. How better to counter this claim than to begin an account of Jesus firmly grounded within Judaism, its scripture, and its prophets?
If gMark is understood as a response, in part, to Marcion, then it would seem that the gospel would need to be dated much later than the composition of Josephus’s Antiquities
(ca. 93/94).

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If gMark is understood as response to Marcion, then even more so against Gnosticism preceding Marcion:

1 Corinthians 2:6-8
Oldest Gospel Passion Story

Then, when the seven rulers came,
they saw hima and were greatly disturbed.

They went up to hima and seized him.a
And [the chief ruler] said to the breath within him,a

"Who are you? And whence did you come hither?"

Ita answered and said, "I have come from 'the force of the man' for the destruction of your work."

When they heard, they glorified him.a

a him = Adam, which Sophie Zoe has just breathed life into = It = not a human

We do, however, speak a message
of wisdom among the mature,
but not the wisdom of this age
or of the rulers of this age,
who are coming to nothing.1a

No, we declare God’s wisdom,
a mystery that has been hidden
and that God destined for our glory before time began.1b

None of the rulers of this age understood it,

for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.



So they bound Jesus, led him away and handed him over to Pilate.

“Are you the king of the Jews?” asked Pilate.

“You have said so,” Jesus replied.

[Pilate] had Jesus flogged,b and handed him over to be crucified.

b the flesh was beaten

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Re: If gMark is understood as response to Marcion, then even more so against Gnosticism preceding Marcion

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Ce sont les nécessités de la lutte entreprise par le presbytérium de Rome contre la Synagogue, le gnosticisme, l'ébionisme et le pouvoir romain (cf, à ce sujet, notre "Entrée en scène de Pilate"), Cahiers du Cercle Ernest Renan n° 98) qui ont déterminé la rédaction de Marc, suivi par les autres canoniques et par une nuée d'apocryphes.

(Pierre Emmanuel GUILLET, Réflections sur les Origines du Christianisme, p. 102)
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