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John of Gischala was imprisoned there.

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:38 am John of Gischala was imprisoned there.

Source?

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:38 amIsland of Potamos == Island of Patmos

Source?

Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:28 pm

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:38 am John of Gischala was imprisoned there.

Source?

I assume that the reader knows already that John of Gischala ended his days in a prison of Rome.

Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:28 pm

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:38 amIsland of Potamos == Island of Patmos

Source?

This view is corroborated by the Syriac text of the Book of Revelation which gives us Potamon, not Patmos, and Potamon is the Greek accusative case of Potamos, a river.

Again, I assume that the reader knows the context of the quote of Patmos island, etc.

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:10 pm

Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:28 pm

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:38 am John of Gischala was imprisoned there.

Source?

I assume that the reader knows already that John of Gischala ended his days in a prison of Rome.

I knew that, but Tiber Island is more specific.

Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:41 pm I knew that, but Tiber Island is more specific.

True, however in the expression 'island of river', the river that is meant had to be sufficient to recognize the island.

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:25 pm

Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:41 pm I knew that, but Tiber Island is more specific.

True, however in the expression 'island of river', the river that is meant had to be sufficient to recognize the island.

Where is this expression? (I don't have it all memorized yet...)

My point is that "island of Patmos" in Book of Revelation is a deformation (probably not deliberate) of 'island of potamos' and 'ποταμός' means 'river'.

Hence, who is talking in the Book of Revelation is a John found in the "island of the river": the Tiber Island?

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:10 pmThis view is corroborated by the Syriac text of the Book of Revelation which gives us Potamon, not Patmos, and Potamon is the Greek accusative case of Potamos, a river.

The book from which this is plagiarized provides a little additional context.

https://books.google.com/books?id=ruEUA ... on&f=false

Very interesting, Giuseppe. May I ask how you stumbled on this tantalising piece of information?

Reading the same source quoted by Peter above. In addition, a case has been made also by Lee Harmon that John of Gischala was the real author of the Book of Revelation (the original layer, at least).