Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm
Basically, the suggestion is that the abbreviations of what may be considered the most important names, titles, and related nouns of early Christianity run parallel, both in form and in effect, to the abbreviations of the names and titles of important Roman officials in inscriptions and especially on coins, which everyone great or small would have regular access to.
By J, I think you've got it, B.
A habit that continues -
I'm holding a coin marked "Elizabeth II D. G. Reg. F. D. 5 Pounds" - all the abbreviations being religious or titular. I'd guess almost every high school kid in the UK would know what they stand for.
Reminds me of the very prominent "G" in Freemasonry, and how many church books and docs are marked "AMDG".
(Great work Jax, the NS really are curious stuff.)
Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm
Basically, the suggestion is that the abbreviations of what may be considered the most important names, titles, and related nouns of early Christianity run parallel, both in form and in effect, to the abbreviations of the names and titles of important Roman officials in inscriptions and especially on coins, which everyone great or small would have regular access to.
By J, I think you've got it, B.
A habit that continues -
I'm holding a coin marked "Elizabeth II D. G. Reg. F. D. 5 Pounds" - all the abbreviations being religious or titular. I'd guess almost every high school kid in the UK would know what they stand for.
Reminds me of the very prominent "G" in Freemasonry, and how many church books and docs are marked "AMDG".
(Great work Jax, the NS really are curious stuff.)
Kapyong wrote:
I'm holding a coin marked "Elizabeth II D. G. Reg. F. D. 5 Pounds" - all the abbreviations being religious or titular. I'd guess almost every high school kid in the UK would know what they stand for.
Reminds me of the very prominent "G" in Freemasonry, and how many church books and docs are marked "AMDG".
(Great work Jax, the NS really are curious stuff.)
I don't know how a coin which clearly shows the name "Elizabeth II" has any relevancy with the Nomina Sacra?
"If YHWH is an abbreviation, then all ancient Hebrew words are abbreviations before the Masoretes added vowel points."
Yah, I was wrong there.
"I don't know how a coin which clearly shows the name "Elizabeth II" has any relevancy with the Nomina Sacra?"
The NS cover more than just personal names - F.D. is a religious title, Jerusalem compares to 'L' for Lakedaimonia. But English monarchs don't like to abbreviate their names, which is an obvious difference, yes.
"Glad you're doing well bud. What other areas of history are you studying?"
Everything is interesting. Now reading E. Michael Jones' Barren Metal, mostly about money, covering 1500s on - with contemporary shows for flavour like The Borgias or The Mission. Hope you're well too
Jax, I wouldn't use WEB, it's pretty lacking. Allegedly or seemingly based on NASB but I found a few nasty surprises after I finished my work on the 70+ parallels between the 5 texts
I really wish I had used Berean Literal, their Berean Greek is fine too. Then again there's no perfect choice I think, but Berean lets you have 2,000 verses without any nagging
"abbreviation" most certainly does not a nomen sacrum make
1. Is the word shorter than it could be? Mark with A (possibly A1 and such for different forms of the same word)
2. Does the word have a superlinear stroke? Mark with S (S1 for multiple strokes, S2 for a single stroke covering multiple letters, S3 for a stroke that covers the entire word
3. Make an exception for the I(H)S variants as those don't fit the definition of (1). Xrestos also is an odd one out as the Greek word means good but X(P)C naturally implies something entirely different
mlinssen wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:08 pm
Jax, I wouldn't use WEB, it's pretty lacking. Allegedly or seemingly based on NASB but I found a few nasty surprises after I finished my work on the 70+ parallels between the 5 texts
I really wish I had used Berean Literal, their Berean Greek is fine too. Then again there's no perfect choice I think, but Berean lets you have 2,000 verses without any nagging
Thanks Martijn, I just use the WEB as a general template to circumvent copyright with most of my translation coming from The New Testament by Bentley Hart and places like Scripture 4 all. When in doubt I try to figure out the original Greek and or ask questions here. I will totally add Berean to my toolbox though. Much appreciate the heads up.