Leucius Charinus wrote:The missing books from this list, are they listed as not authored by Jewish-Christians?
Who authored them if not Jewish-Christians?
Proselytes and gentiles, who had recently joined the movement.
Thanks for that list.
Does not do any justice to anything.
The answer is we don't know, and the answer will remain that way due to lack of credible information.
That is why the vague description in use today stands.
Then is it, or is it not, within the bounds of possibility that the entire NT collection
was authored by "proselytes and gentiles, who had recently joined the movement."?
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A "cobbler of fables" [Augustine]; "Leucius is the disciple of the devil" [Decretum Gelasianum]; and his books "should be utterly swept away and burned" [Pope Leo I]; they are the "source and mother of all heresy" [Photius]
Steven Avery wrote:That Luke wrote to the high priest Theophilus is one major point.
outhouse wrote:Unsubstantiated. Try again?
It is a very strong theory of recipient, although anybody stuck in late dating due to skeptic presuppositions would have a hard time accepting the fairly obvious identity. So mentioning that is more for those who respect the NT documents as early histories of Jesus Christ, for whom it is sensible and entirely consistent and has numerous interweaving corroborations.
There is a different theory that Luke himself was a priest:
Acts 6:7
And the word of God increased;
and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly;
and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.
Which would add a tinge of irony in his writing style, if he were one of the company.
Leucius Charinus wrote:The missing books from this list, are they listed as not authored by Jewish-Christians?
Who authored them if not Jewish-Christians?
Proselytes and gentiles, who had recently joined the movement.
Thanks for that list.
Does not do any justice to anything.
The answer is we don't know, and the answer will remain that way due to lack of credible information.
That is why the vague description in use today stands.
Then is it, or is it not, within the bounds of possibility that the entire NT collection
was authored by "proselytes and gentiles, who had recently joined the movement."?
.
Maybe you are confused with the word "unknown"
It Is "in the bounds" that some people considered Jewish also authored them as well as Proselytes and gentiles.
And, when they joined is not known. It could be plausible at any time.
The movement failed in Judaism in Israel.
The movement grew and progressed In Hellenism in the Diaspora. Who lived in the Diaspora?
outhouse wrote:
Maybe you are confused with the word "unknown"
There's no confusion there. However although these authors are unknown, their literary output can be analysed, and has been analysed ad nauseum for many many centuries. The specific question as to whether these [unknown] authors were Jewish seems to have an answer YES on the basis that the Greek story depicts events in first century Judea. However if these Greek stories were written in the 2nd century, for example, that the authors were Jewish becomes less probable on the basis that many other possibilities exist to explain a story written a century after the events.
It Is "in the bounds" that some people considered Jewish also authored them as well as Proselytes and gentiles.
Of course that possibility does not get reduced to zero, but it does get reduced.
The later the date of authorship, the more possibilities exist, the less relative probability is reserved for Jewish authorship.
A "cobbler of fables" [Augustine]; "Leucius is the disciple of the devil" [Decretum Gelasianum]; and his books "should be utterly swept away and burned" [Pope Leo I]; they are the "source and mother of all heresy" [Photius]