The personification of the Shekhinah

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Nathan
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Re: The personification of the Shekhinah

Post by Nathan » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:42 pm

iskander, I don't know if you ever got to see the text from Midrash Mishle mentioned in your original post, from last year; but in case you didn't and are still interested, here it is:

"[W]hen the Sanhedrin sought to include Solomon among the three kings and four commoners [to whom the Mishnah denies a place in the world to come], the Shekinah stood up before the Holy One, praised be He, and said to Him, 'Master of both worlds, have You ever seen anyone as diligent in doing Your work? And yet they wish to count him among those consigned to [eternal] darkness!' At that moment a heavenly voice came forth, saying to them, 'He shall attend upon kings; he shall not attend upon those consigned to [eternal] darkness (Prov. 22:19)."

(The translation is from Burton L. Visotzky's The Midrash on Proverbs.)

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Re: The personification of the Shekhinah

Post by iskander » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:33 am

Nathan wrote:iskander, I don't know if you ever got to see the text from Midrash Mishle mentioned in your original post, from last year; but in case you didn't and are still interested, here it is:

"[W]hen the Sanhedrin sought to include Solomon among the three kings and four commoners [to whom the Mishnah denies a place in the world to come], the Shekinah stood up before the Holy One, praised be He, and said to Him, 'Master of both worlds, have You ever seen anyone as diligent in doing Your work? And yet they wish to count him among those consigned to [eternal] darkness!' At that moment a heavenly voice came forth, saying to them, 'He shall attend upon kings; he shall not attend upon those consigned to [eternal] darkness (Prov. 22:19)."

(The translation is from Burton L. Visotzky's The Midrash on Proverbs.)

Thank you Nathan , I never got to see the reference given in the book, Thank you so much .

Every ' humane' religion should have an open direct channel to its particular God , to allow for the dignified evolution of scripture. I am glad to see that Judaism seems to facilitate this tolerant evolution.
Cheers

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Re: The personification of the Shekhinah

Post by iskander » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:10 am

The Christian interpretation of the execution of Jesus , as one death atoning for the sins of Israel, is in line with the religious Jewish expectations of the period. See attachment

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Re: The personification of the Shekhinah

Post by iskander » Wed May 10, 2017 10:00 am

The Christian interpretation of the execution of Jesus as an atoning death for the transgression of Adam and Eve is the interpretation of a Jewish convert to Christianity. The thinking of a mind trained to pay the price for sins committed.


But Luke 23:34 is the summary of the entire teaching of Jesus : 34Then Jesus said, Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.

There was no sacrifice .

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Re: The personification of the Shekhinah

Post by iskander » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:44 am

It is about the power of man to deal directly with a merciful God. When he was dying the reformer said:
Re: The personification of the Shekhinah
Post by iskander » Wed May 10, 2017 10:00 am
The Christian interpretation of the execution of Jesus as an atoning death for the transgression of Adam and Eve is the interpretation of a Jewish convert to Christianity. The thinking of a mind trained to pay the price for sins committed.


But Luke 23:34 is the summary of the entire teaching of Jesus : 34Then Jesus said, Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.

There was no sacrifice .
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1828&p=69706#p69706

That is the secret of Mark namely , God is truly the father of us all, and gave us the freedom to use our intelligence as best we can. After death all of his children join their father in eternal bliss .
Can you understand that?
The Sanhedrin was the model for the Holy Inquisition: blasphemy! the inquisitors howl while they burn, lapidate, decapitate ...

viewtopic.php?f=3&p=79816#p79816

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Re: The personification of the Shekhinah

Post by iskander » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:13 pm

Isaac’s Divine Conception?

http://thetorah.com/isaacs-divine-conception/

“The Lord visited Sarah” (Gen 21:1) – When God (and his angels) appears to Abraham to announce the birth of Isaac, the text implies a hidden visit to Sarah. Does this mean, as both Philo and Paul claim, that Isaac was born from a divine conception?
Dr. Rabbi Samuel Z. Glaser
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Divine Conceptions
The birth of Isaac is not the only place in the Bible in which a divine or angelic conception is implied.
When Eve names Cain (Gen 4:1), she explains his name by saying “I have created a man with YHWH” ( .(קָנִיתִי אִישׁ אֶת יְ-הוָה

The children of God ( בני אלוהים ) are said to have propagated with women and produced giants (Gen 6:1-4).

The Second Temple works, 1 Enoch (106) and Genesis Apocryphon (col. 2) both describe how Noah’s father, Lamech, was worried that Noah was the product of a divine being and not his own son.

Samson seems to be the product of a union between Manoach’s wife and a visiting angel l

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