Where was the Temple of Onias located?

Reb Chaim HaQoton · Post by **Reb Chaim HaQoton** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:33 pm

Josephus writes that the Temple of Onias (Chonyo) in Egypt was built in Heliopoils, however the Talmud (Menahot 109b) seems to understand that the temple was built in Alexandria, not in Heliopolis?

iskander · Post by **iskander** » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:52 am

Mishnah Menachot 13.10

http://www.sefaria.org/Mishnah_Menachot.13?lang=en

“I take upon myself an olah” - he must offer it in the Temple. And if he offered it in the Temple of Onias (A temple made by Onias in the Egyptian city of Heliopolis, contemporary with the Second Temple in Jerusalem), he has not fulfilled his obligation.

Post by **andrewcriddle** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:01 am

Alexandria in the Babylonian Talmud sometimes seems to mean Egypt in general.

Andrew Criddle

Secret Alias · Post by **Secret Alias** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:56 am

But it has always been difficult for me to reconcile Philo of Alexandria likely being of priestly background with his location in Alexandria. I think (but do not by any means know for certain) that something like a 'temple' might have existed in Alexandria. The idea that Clement's holy of holies was related to the Jewish structure is also interesting but by no means provable.

iskander · Post by **iskander** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:40 am

From the Maccabees to the Mishnah by ShayeJ. D. Cohen : at least three other temples.
see attached file

John2 · Post by **John2** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:04 pm

Onias is said to have based his temple on Is. 19:18, which refers to "the city of the sun" (or "destruction" as a play on "sun"), which points to Heliopolis.

https://books.google.com/books?id=iY5_y ... un&f=false

Reb Chaim HaQoton · Post by **Reb Chaim HaQoton** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:56 am

andrewcriddle wrote:Alexandria in the Babylonian Talmud sometimes seems to mean Egypt in general.

Andrew Criddle

Do you have any sources for this assertion?

iskander wrote:Mishnah Menachot 13.10

http://www.sefaria.org/Mishnah_Menachot.13?lang=en

“I take upon myself an olah” - he must offer it in the Temple. And if he offered it in the Temple of Onias (A temple made by Onias in the Egyptian city of Heliopolis, contemporary with the Second Temple in Jerusalem), he has not fulfilled his obligation.

This doesn't prove anything because the text in parentheses was added by that website, the Mishnah simply reads Temple of Onias.

iskander · Post by **iskander** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:15 am

http://history.stackexchange.com/questi ... as-located
It is as far as your question can be answered.

iskander · Post by **iskander** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:30 pm

Alexandria in the Babylonian Talmud sometimes seems to mean Egypt in general.

Egyptian Cultural Icons in Midrash, Volume 23, pg. 210
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wKH ... ud&f=false
By Rivka Ulme
And attached file,

iskander · Post by **iskander** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:37 pm

Syllabus A TEMPLE IN EGYPT: HIST. OF ONIAS' LAND & TEMPLE - 13892
http://shnaton.huji.ac.il/index.php/New ... 92/2/2014/
http://shnaton.huji.ac.il/index.php/New ... 92/1/2014/
Egyptian Cultural Icons in Midrash, Volume 23, pg. 210

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