Zeus is the Jewish God.

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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

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Ethan wrote: Fri May 11, 2018 4:13 pm I equated שם (shem) with Σημα "Mark" , According too the Lexicon the root is שום
see Gen 4:15 "Mark of Cain" written σημεῖον τῷ Καιν .
That does not make much semantic sense. The structure of this word also has problems.

sêmeion = sêma + -ion (diminutive suffix)
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sêma = *sê- + -ma, -mat- with the -ma (another derivational suffix). This suffix appears in several other Greek words, and Latin has cognate suffix -men, Sanskrit -man, Russian -mja, -men-, etc. Two Indo-European words with that suffix are *(h1)nomn "name" and *seh1mn "seed" (> Latin sêmen, Russian semja, semjen-).

So the m has nothing to do with the m in Hebrew "shem".
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You are confusing Σμη & Σημα

A. Σημα > שם "identity"

B. Semen (שמן ) - "Seed Oil" ( same meaning in both Latin & Hebrew)
- ζωμόν ( Zwmon) "fat, greasy fellow or broth.
- Σμη "Wipe with Grease, make-shine , elbow-grease"

Σμη (Shem) "shine"
- שמש (Shemesh) "Sun"
- שמן (Shemen) "Oily"

Σλα (Ela) "Oil"
A. Fuel for lamps
B. Oil is a shiny fluid.

Jobs 31:26
- הל ( EL) " Sun shine"

Jobs 29:3
- על ( OL) "the shine of a candle"

Hallelujah
הללו־יה = ἐλελεύ ιή παιήων , αλαλαι ιή παιήων, αλαλαι ιή ἡλίου , ἐλελεύ ιή ἡλίου , ἐλελεῦ ιή Βάκχος
הילילי = ὀλολύζω
אל עלה = ὁ̂ ἥλιος = Allah

http://latinlexicon.org/definition.php?p1=1005453
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=57A ... ων&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-kh ... ιή&f=false
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... ι&la=greek
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... +&la=greek
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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שמש (Shemesh) is ΣΜΨ i.e שמשון/ΣΑΜΨΩΝ
- final 'ש becomes Ψ when מ precedes it.

Ψ is ש with a tail.
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שמש = Σμη φώς (Shemphos) "Shining-Light"
* Ψάω "Rub / Shine" , a synonym of Σμη .
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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מים (Mim) > Mymph > Nymph (νύμφη)

Nymph
A. Water (Latin)
B. All river-goddesses are Nymphs in Greco-Roman mythology .

מורה (Mure) "Rain"
> Imber "Rain" ( Latin)
> ὄμβρος

*M letter pushes the lips to pronounce unwillingly, the letter p/b or Φ/Ψ/Β
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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I've found Category:Ancient Greek words by suffix - Wiktionary, listing 118 words in Category:Ancient Greek words suffixed with -μα - Wiktionary That's -ma. It omits onoma, however.

Likewise, Category:Latin words by suffix - Wiktionary lists 84 words in Category:Latin words suffixed with -men - Wiktionary It omits nômen, however.

The -ma and -men words follow those languages' consonant-stem declensions, with stems -mat- and -min-. Thus, for "name", the genitive ("of a name") in Greek is onomatos and in Latin is nôminis.

Also, the Russian word imja is one of 10 nouns that share its declension. Its genitive is imjeni.

Together,
onoma - onomatos
nômen - nominis
imja - imjeni
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You only need to examine the Greek word, the word 'onoma' stems from νομῷ
meaning, Graze, Law, Pasture, Habitation, Custom.

A. נאה "Nae" - Pasturage/Habitation
B. כנה "Kne" - Flattering title
C. חמ "Km" - In-Law
D. עונה "Onah - cohabitation
E. מכון "Mkun" - Habitation
F. מעון " Moun" - Habitation
G γαμβρός "Gambros" - Connection by marriage
H. אלמנה "Almana" - widow
I. ἄγαμον"Agamon - widow
F. כלה "KLE" - In-Law
G. καλέω "Kalew" - to be called
H. שאל "Sal" - to grant
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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Onoma

מינה (MINE)
- ὅμοια ( Omoia) "Kind" (Deu 14:14)
- ὁμός (Omos) " Same"
- המ ( Em) "they, these, the same, who"
- המנ ( Emn) " they, them"
- המונ (Emwn) "crowd, multitude , people"
- הנ ( En) "they, these, the same, who
-ὅν ( En) "his, her,
- אָמָן (Aman) "workman
- אֱנוֹשׁ ( Anos) "man, persons
- אֳנִיָּה (Anie) "shipman"
- νεανίας (Neanias) " young man"
- νέος ( Neos) "new, younger, young man, new man
- νύμφη (Numph) "daughter in law!
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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I will now discuss noun cases. These are modifications of a word to indicate its syntactic role. English is very short on noun cases, instead using prepositions and word order most of the time. Prepositions can also follow a word that they are used with, making them postpositions. A general term for the two is adpositions. Drawing the line between postpositions and noun-case endings can be difficult.

Here is what English has by way of noun cases. Nouns can have the possessive suffix -s, and pronouns have four forms: a nominative or subject case ("I"), an oblique case that serves as direct object (accusative), indirect object (dative or to-case), and preposition object ("me"), a possessive adjective ("my"), and a possessive predicate noun ("mine"). Examples:
This post's contents are all mine. (possessive suffix on a noun)
I am writing this post. (nominative)
You are reading me. (oblique - accusative)
You should give me your comments. (oblique - dative)
Post here with me. (oblique - preposition object)
This is my post. (possessive adjective)
This post is mine. (possessive predicate noun)

Some languages have essentially no noun cases, while some other languages have a lot more noun cases than English has. The latter ones include the older Indo-European languages and the more conservative present-day ones. Though English has lost most noun cases, languages can also gain cases. Also, many of the older and/or more conservative IE languages make prepositions vary in meaning by combining them with different cases.

Latin had six cases: vocative (case of addressing someone or something), nominative, accusative, dative, genitive (of-case, broader than possessive), ablative (from-case, though often used as an instrumental (with-case) or a locative (in-case) case).

Russian has seven cases: nominative, accusative, dative, genitive, instrumental, and prepositional (always occurs with prepositions, though it's essentially a locative). Most other Slavic languages also have these cases.

Classical Greek had five cases: vocative, nominative, accusative, dative, and genitive.

Proto-Indo-European is reconstructed as having vocative, nominative, accusative, dative, genitive, instrumental, locative, and ablative.


Pronouns usually have noun-case declensions similar to what nouns have, though when languages lose noun cases, pronouns may lag a bit. Like in English.
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A word that as various prefixes and suffixes is θυμός /חמד because this word as so many modifications
and carries so many meanings, Desire, Pleasure, Delight, Beauty, Covet, Anger, Wrath, Rage, Desire, Will, Passion.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/θυμός

θυμός/חמד
- ἐπιθυμήματα ( Epithumhmata)
- מחמודיהם ( Mhmudihm )
-מחמדי ( Mhmdi)
- מחמדיה' ( Mhmdie)
- ἐπιθυμίαι ( Epithumiai)
- ἐπιθυμητήν ( Epithumhthn)
- ἐπεθύμησαν (Epethuhmsan)
- ἐπιθυμίας (Epithumias)
- ἐπιθυμιῶν ( Epithumiwn)
- המתאוים ( Emtauim)
- תאות ( Mauth)
-ἐπιθυμία ( Epithumia)
1 Kings 20:6 -Pleasant מַחְמָד = ἐπιθυμήματα
Songs 5:16 Lovely, - מחמדים = ἐπιθυμία
Lam 1:10 -pleasant things - מחמדיה = ἐπιθυμήματ
Lam 1:11 - מחמודיהם (Mhmudihm)=/ἐπιθυμήματα (Epi'thuhmata
Lam 2:4 - מחמדי ( Mhmdi) = ἐπιθυμήματα
Ezekiel 24:16 - את־מחמד ( ahmhmd) = ἐπιθυμήματα
Hosea 9:16 - מחמדי (mhmdi) = ἐπιθυμήματα
Numbers 11:34 - Lust ' המתאוים ' (em'tavahim) , the Gk is Epi'thumhton (ἐπιθυμητήν)
Psalms 106:14 - Lusted exceedingly ' ויתאוו תאוה (ἐπεθύμησαν ἐπιθυμίαν)
Proverbs 21:25 -The desire 'תאות - ἐπιθυμίαι
Lam 1:10 - pleasant things 'מחמדיה' (mhmadie) - ἐπιθυμήματα (epi-Thumhmata)
Songs 5:16 - lovely - מחמדים (mhmdim) - ἐπιθυμία
Hosea 9:16 - Beloved fruit of the womb - מחמדי (mhmdi) - ἐπιθυμήματα (epi-Thumhmata)
Psalms 140:8 - Desires of the wicked - מאויי (Mauii ) - ἐπιθυμίας (Epi-thumias)
2 Chronicles 32:27 -Pleasant Jewels - חמדה (Hmdh) - ἐπιθυμητὰ ( epi-thumta)
Dan 10:3 - I ate no pleasant bread - חמדות (Hmdit) - ἐπιθυμιῶν (epi-thumion)
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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מלכא - βασιλεῦ (noun-singular-masculine)
מלך - βασιλεὺς (noun-singular-masculine-nominal)
מלכיא - βασιλέων (noun-plural-masculine-gens)
מלכת - βασιλίσσῃ (Noun-singular-feminine-dative)

מריא - κυρίᾳ

יא = -οι, -αί , -οῦ
* אמיא (People) is ὁμιλίᾳ
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