50 people in the Hebrew Bible also in archaeology
Re: 50 people in the Hebrew Bible also in archaeology
The standard answer to the lack of a dot seems to be that the writer made a mistake. If you assume this however, that's got to put at least an asterisk by the reference to David. The guy is writing a Stele for his king before they had worker protection laws... maybe I guess.
My understanding is that all the dots on the Stele are appropriately placed except for this one.
I've also seen an opinion that the lack of a dot is normal
http://jewishstudies.rutgers.edu/compon ... Itemid=158
I'm not convinced by this article, but didn't read it carefully.
My understanding is that all the dots on the Stele are appropriately placed except for this one.
I've also seen an opinion that the lack of a dot is normal
http://jewishstudies.rutgers.edu/compon ... Itemid=158
I'm not convinced by this article, but didn't read it carefully.
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The lack of a dot could also be because there was no space. I think it's just inconclusive. I don't say it can't be a reference to a Davidic dynasty, but it's not a sure thing.
For all we know, the Davidic legend could have grown from the place name in a manner analogous to Romulus and Rome.
For all we know, the Davidic legend could have grown from the place name in a manner analogous to Romulus and Rome.
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Yeah, that's why I liked the way you originally put it.Diogenes the Cynic wrote:The lack of a dot could also be because there was no space. I think it's just inconclusive. I don't say it can't be a reference to a Davidic dynasty, but it's not a sure thing.
For all we know, the Davidic legend could have grown from the place name in a manner analogous to Romulus and Rome.
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Yes, that is the etymology of David.Diogenes the Cynic wrote:It means "Beloved," which is attested at least once in the Tanakh that I know of as an honorific for God (Isaiah 5:1)
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Thank you.semiopen wrote:The standard answer to the lack of a dot seems to be that the writer made a mistake. If you assume this however, that's got to put at least an asterisk by the reference to David. The guy is writing a Stele for his king before they had worker protection laws... maybe I guess.
My understanding is that all the dots on the Stele are appropriately placed except for this one.
I've also seen an opinion that the lack of a dot is normal
http://jewishstudies.rutgers.edu/compon ... Itemid=158
I'm not convinced by this article, but didn't read it carefully.
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I know. That's my point. The name has an etymology. It's not just a name, it's also a regular word.nili wrote:Yes, that is the etymology of David.Diogenes the Cynic wrote:It means "Beloved," which is attested at least once in the Tanakh that I know of as an honorific for God (Isaiah 5:1)
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And it's a valid point. (You might find this interesting as well.)Diogenes the Cynic wrote:I know. That's my point. The name has an etymology. It's not just a name, it's also a regular word.nili wrote:Yes, that is the etymology of David.Diogenes the Cynic wrote:It means "Beloved," which is attested at least once in the Tanakh that I know of as an honorific for God (Isaiah 5:1)
But your point takes me back to an earlier question. Is there a rendering of the inscription that you find most plausible?
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I'm saying a place name is equally plausible. "City of David" would be plausible.
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I understand that this is what you are saying. I also understand that you are repeatedly avoiding my question. As you wish. I still think I might benefit from reading your equally plausible rendering of the inscription, but I don't want to push you into doing something that you feel ill prepared to do.Diogenes the Cynic wrote:I'm saying a place name is equally plausible. "City of David" would be plausible.
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I just gave you a rendering - "City of David." It's not so much a question of translation, but whether it's a family name or a place name. Is it BYTDWD or BYT.DWD? It could be either, and the lack of a divider usually means a place name. If we did not know of a King David from the Bible, BYTDWD would be taken at least initially as a probable place name. We don't wonder is there was a "House of Bread" dynasty or a "House of El" dynasty.