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lpetrich wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 5:21 pm Mycenaean Greek is very recognizable as Greek. It was decoded with the help of the pictographic signs that were used in Linear B writing. Like ti-ri-po-de in syllable signs, then a drawing of a three-legged jug and then "2".

The Mycenaean word ' ti-ri-po-de ' is תרפים "Teraphim" or τρίπον ( Tripon)
* Three-legged i.e cauldron, votive gifts in temples and private houses

Judges 17:5
And the man Micah had an house of gods, and made an Ephod, and Teraphim
Genesis 31:19
Rachel had stolen the Teraphim that were her father's.

Ephod (אפוד )
1. ἐπῳδός (Ephod) "Enchanter, Charmer"
2.ἐπενδύτης "Robe reaching too the feet"
3. ποδήρης "reaching to the feat"
4. ποδός ( Podos) "Feet"

http://perseus.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/phi ... 6:1:32.LSJ
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... n&la=greek
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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Strabo 16.1 - Ephod
Their dress is a tunic reaching to the feet
αὐτοῖς ἐστι χιτὼν λινοῦς ποδήρης καὶ ἐπενδύτης

Chiton (χιτὼν ) "Garment worn next the skin, tunic
Kheton (כתנ ) "tunic, under-garment"

Genesis 37:23
χιτῶνα τὸν ποικίλον - כתנת ה פסים
- ποικ- = פס "to stitch, embroider, sting, color"

Zechariah 13:4
δέρριν τριχίνην = אדרת שער

Derris (δέρρις) "Animal Skin"
Adareth (אדרת ) "Animal Skin"
Satyr (Σάτυρος ) = שער

gĕlowm (גְּלוֹם) " wrapping, garment"
Kalumma (κάλυμμα) "head covering"

Greek clothes.
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Μαχαιρίου > Χαιρίου > Χαιρίοβ > Χρβ(חרב) "Sword"

חרש/Χειρός "Hand"
חרש טוב "Good with the hands"
- Χρησ τοβ > Χρηστου

κολπου "Atrium of the Heart, Bosom, Hollow"
> κολποβ > λπβ > לבב "Heart"
> κολπος > λπ > לב "Heart"
> κολπον > לבנ "Lebanon" (κοίλου Συρία)
> κολπον > Qalb "Heart" ( Arabic)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/قلب
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Ethan wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 5:50 pm
lpetrich wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 5:21 pm Mycenaean Greek is very recognizable as Greek. It was decoded with the help of the pictographic signs that were used in Linear B writing. Like ti-ri-po-de in syllable signs, then a drawing of a three-legged jug and then "2".
The Mycenaean word ' ti-ri-po-de ' is תרפים "Teraphim" or τρίπον ( Tripon)
* Three-legged i.e cauldron, votive gifts in temples and private houses
If one looks far enough for phonetic and semantic resemblances, one will find them. Mark Rosenfelder has some nice examples in Deriving Proto-World.
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The translators of the Bible don't know what a Teraphim is, so they either generically translate
it as 'Image' or transliterate it and according to the Lexicon entry for Ephod , "Probably of foreign derivation".

Ephod and Teraphim both share the same root word, "ποδός" (Podos) "Foot"

ποδῶν (Podon ) become a Foot stool, הדם (hadom ) *H1916 or a ἕδος (Edos) "sitting-place"

Psalms 99:5 - ὑποποδίῳ
Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool for he is holy.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... s&la=greek
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The odd location in Genesis 48:7 called 'PADAN' , according too the Lexicon
entry, 'unknown etymology' meaning Plain.

πεδίον 'plain'
πέδον 'ground, earth'
ποδός 'Foot'
ἕδος 'Sitting Place"'
Εδεμ "Eden * עדן


πεδίον is a common translation of בקעה "biqah" and it's dialectic cognate is παγεύς "Pageus" (Pedestal)
עקב "aqeb" (Heel/Foot) and Bike 'Bi-ped' K>p

ιχνος. - Ichnos "track, footsteps"
ἰνάχου > ἰνάχοβ > Ιακωβ > ויעקב "Jacob"

Achilles Heel
Ἀχιλλεύς = אצלות "Joint"
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-Hebrew-
Baca (בקע) "To cleft"
Baca (בכא) "mulberry"
Baca (בכה) "Bacchus"

-Etruscan-
Faca "to cleft" [az96]
Baca "Berry" [lrp 57]
Paxa "Bacchus" [g/lb83]
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Ethan wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 8:04 pm Ephod and Teraphim both share the same root word, "ποδός" (Podos) "Foot"
"podos" is in the genitive case or of-case: "of a foot". Not the best reference form. Try the nominative (subject) pous or the accusative (object) poda. All singular, I may add.

Greek pous (nom. sg.), pod- (stem for other cases and numbers)
Cognate with
Latin pês (nom. sg.), ped-
Sanskrit pât, pad-
and Germanic forms like English "foot".

Hebrew regel doesn't look anything like this.
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Regel means 'straighten or bend ( the knees) hence *Regula and Ruler.

The name 'Etruscan' is related too the word 'Thresh' from Proto Germanic, 'Threskan . in Greek, this is τρέχω (Trekho)
and in Phoenician it's דרך (Darak) 'to tread.

דרך (Darak)
1. to tread (a press)
2. to bend ( a bow) ' Arcus (Bow, Arch) * Target

Phoenicians imported Wine from the Etruscans , they call it תירש (Tyrus) "Tyrrhenian wine".
that appears in Genesis 27:28 , called the 'Best of wines' in Numbers 18:12.

* Grape-stomping is done with the Legs
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Threshing - Wikipedia -- human threshing is done by beating the grain with handheld flails. A flail is two wooden rods connected with a short chain. Farm-animal threshing is done by getting the animals to walk on the grain.

Ethan, all you are doing is showing that you can derive any word from any other word.
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