Logos

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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:27 pm

I found a common phrase throughout the Hebrew Bible and they are so many variations
of it's translations.

Gen 41:37 - וייטב הדבר בעיני "And the thing was good in the eyes"
1 Kings 3:10 - וייטב הדבר בעיני "And the speech pleased"
Gen 34:18- וייטבו דבריהם בעיני "And their words please"
Josh 22:33 - וייטב הדבר בעיני "And the thing pleased"
Esther 1:21 - וייטב הדבר בעיני "And the saying pleased"
Deu 1:23 - וייטב בעיני הדבר "And the saying pleased me well"

וייטב - ἤρεσεν , ἀγαθοποιήσῃ , ἀγαθυνεῖ , ἀγαθοῦ
הדבר - ῥήματος , ῥήματα, οἱ λόγοι , ὁ λόγος, τὸ ῥῆμα
בעיני - ἐναντίον , ἐνώπιον


Act 6:5 - καὶ ἤρεσεν ὁ λόγος ἐνώπιον "And the saying pleased "
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:05 pm

The word in Gen 41:37, is translated as ב עיני "In Eyes" .
ב mean In, always ἐν (En) in Greek.

The same phrase occurs in New Testament.

Act 6:5 - καὶ ἤρεσεν ὁ λόγος ἐνώπιον
Gen 41:37 - καὶ ἤρεσεν τὰ ῥήματα ἐναντίον

ב עינ
- ἐν ώπιον
- ἐν αντίον

ἐνώπιον - facing, to the front
ὠποῖν (Opoin) "Eyes"
ἐναντίος - Opposite
ἀντίον - meet face to face
ἐπάνω - Face
פני - Face
ὤψ - Eye

ע produced a consonant sound , either g , p, t, s
so ע = ώπ .

ἐν ώπιον : ν πιν : ב עינ
ἐν αντίον :ν τίν : ב עינ
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:24 pm

טהר is a true-cognate of καθαρός pronounced Katharos
then טהר is θar. θαρός is not a standalone word in
Greek, but θαρρος (or θάρσος) means 'Courage'
which is כרעות (courage/coraticum ) in Hebrew. (Job 4:4)

Psalm 89:44
Thou hast made his valour to cease
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:42 pm

Philosopy
φιλοσοφία - 𐤁𐤏𐤋𐤄𐤔𐤉𐤇𐤄/בעלהשיחה (sikhe > siphe )

Music
μουσικός - 𐤌𐤔𐤉𐤇𐤄/משיחה ( Msikhe )

Bishop
ἐπίσκοπος - 𐤏𐤋𐤉𐤑𐤐𐤄/עליצפה ( Elitsophoh )
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:03 pm

In Gen 3:4, the Snake in both Greek and Hebrew as a Prefix article.
ה נחש - ὁ ὄφις

With most words that begin with N and M in Hebrew , the prefix particle can be dropped.

נחש = (N)okhis > Ophis = ὄφις, ἔχις
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:35 pm

בעל is a versatile word.

בעל
1. πόλις - Jos 11:17
2. φίλος, φιλέω, πόσις - 2Sa 11:26, Prov 30:23
3. πολύς, "Multitude"" ( בעלידע/πολυειδήμων) - Num 22:5
4. βάλλω, Ἀπόλλων "Archer" - Gen 49:23
5. βούλῃ (Gen 14:13)
6. φλυαρία (Ecc 10:11)


BOL is cognate with LOVE and AMOR.
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:45 pm

ZAB (זאב) "Wolf"
- δάος, δαου "Wolf" ( Phrygian)
- θώς "Wild Dog, Jackle"
- θαῦνον "Wild animal" θαῦ/θαβ/δαβ/זאב
- Fauna, Faunus , φαῦνος
- κύων
- Dogue , Dog , Dogge
- Chien (fr)

ZNE (זנה) "Harlot" . Zgne n>gn
- γυνή, γυνά, γυναικίζω (Gune) "Woman"
- κοινός , κοινῇ
- Cwene, Quean , Queen
- Chienne "Bitch" (fr)
- Putain, Puta
- Duena, Diana
- Dama, Dame, Madama, , Ama

Queen cognate with the Punic word ZNE.
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:03 pm

Revelation 22:17 as the particle, ' Ἐλθε ' , the only Septuagint book this occurs, is Songs of Solomon, a popular book
among the 2nd century Christians.

Ἐλθε = לך (LK) *Sng 2:10, 13

ו-לך in Gen 12:9 translates into ἀπό-τρεχε

τρεχε > τρχ/תלך, לך

ולך
> לךϝ > לךϝ > πρς/πόρος (Lev 19:16)
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:30 pm

Rev 22:17
ὁ θέλων λαμβανέτω τὸ ὕδωρ ζωῆς δωρεάν
החפת יקח המים חיי חנם ( my translation)
𐤄𐤇𐤐‬𐤕𐤉‬𐤒‬𐤇𐤄𐤌𐤉‬𐤌‬𐤇𐤉𐤉𐤇𐤍𐤌‬
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Re: Logos

Post by Ethan » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:08 am

Definite Article
τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν" (Greek)
los Cielos y la Tierra (Spanish)
Al Jana w Al Ard (Arabic)
na Neamh agus an Domhan ( Irish)
y Nefoedd a r Ddaear (Welsh)

There is no articles in Poetic Greek.

οὐρανὸν καὶ γῆν ( Homeric Greek )
aelum et Terram (Latin)

Why are Hebrew scriptures written in Prose?

שמים וארץ ( Poetic Hebrew)
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