Yes, thanks. Henry Chadwick noted "Celsus confuses Herod the tetrarch (Luke iii. I) with Herod the Great, his father (Matt. ii. I-3)."
Whether Celsus confused his source or whether the source Celsus used specified that, well, I do not today claim to know.
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Re: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
I think, rather Matthew confused Luke's (Lk 1:5) "Herod, king of Judea (Ἰουδαίας)" [Herod Archelaus, ethnarch of Judea] with "Herod, king of the Jews (Ἰουδαίων)" [Herod the Great], who was reigning over Judea before his son Archelaus (Mt 2:22). However, Luke might be partly responsible for the confusion when he decided to use "king" instead of "ethnarch" for Archelaus.StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:16 am Yes, thanks. Henry Chadwick noted "Celsus confuses Herod the tetrarch (Luke iii. I) with Herod the Great, his father (Matt. ii. I-3)."
Whether Celsus confused his source or whether the source Celsus used specified that, well, I do not today claim to know.
Lk 1:5 (NASB20):
In the days of Herod, king of Judea, [Ἡρῴδου βασιλέως τῆς Ἰουδαίας] there was a priest named Zechariah, of the division of Abijah; and he had a wife from the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.
Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews (XV.11.4):
But when Herod was king of the Jews [ὁ τῶν Ἰουδαίων βασιλεὺς Ἡρώδης]...
Mt 2:1-2 (NASB20):
Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king [Ἡρῴδου τοῦ βασιλέως], behold, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews [βασιλεὺς τῶν Ἰουδαίων]? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”
Mt 2:22 (NASB20):
But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning over Judea [Ἰουδαίας] in place of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there.
Re: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
G.R.S. Mead, DID JESUS LIVE 100 B.C.? AN ENQUIRY' INTO THE TALMUD JESUS STORIES, THE TOLDOTH JESCHU, AND SOME CURIOUS STATEMENTS OF EPIPHANIUS— BEING A CONTRIBUTION TO THE STUDY OF CHRISTIAN ORIGINS (1903)
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Best,
Ken
may be downloaded here:
https://archive.org/details/didjesusliv ... 5/mode/2up
Best,
Ken