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Post by ghost » Thu May 08, 2014 5:50 pm

May I ask… :twisted:

Where did the Roman imperial cult go? :consternation:

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Post by Peter Kirby » Thu May 08, 2014 5:52 pm

I think they stopped doing it after the last non-Christian Roman emperor. :consternation:
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Post by Roger Pearse » Thu May 08, 2014 10:48 pm

I don't know myself. But the imperial cult was a state thing. So when Theodosius banned paganism, I imagine it just stopped.

Interesting question.

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Post by andrewcriddle » Sat May 10, 2014 12:44 am

The decline of the formal imperial cult was gradual.
The last emperor in the East to be called Divus upon his death was Anastasius in 518 Rituals of Royalty (The practice died out earlier in the West but this seems to be part of the loss of status of the 5th century western puppet emperors. )

On the other hand Constantine probably banned sacrifices as part of the imperial cult.

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Post by Thor » Sat May 10, 2014 11:18 am

Charlemagne, king of the Romans, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. Coronation granted by the Pontifex Maximus, Bishop of Rome. Although this remnant of the past empire Rome had been, the divine right of the King with support from the Church continued with the new kingdoms emerging out of the ashes of antiquity.

Karolus serenissimus Augustus a Deo coronatus magnus pacificus imperator Romanum gubernans imperium





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Re: JC

Post by Leucius Charinus » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:49 pm

ghost wrote:May I ask… :twisted:

Where did the Roman imperial cult go? :consternation:

The role of "Pontifex Maximus" was abandoned by the Christian Emperors and assumed by Damasus, rightful Bishop of Rome, in the later 4th century. One might answer this question .... "Where did the Roman imperial cult go?" ... by saying it was partly subsumed into the Christian cult by the transfer of the role of Pontifex Maximus from the Emperor - head of the pagan priesthood - to the Pope of Rome (Damasus, the thug) and the Christian priesthood.

It is interesting to note that JC bribed his way into the role of "Pontifex Maximus" and the role was performed by (most? all?) Roman Emperors until Damasus assumed it.
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Post by MrMacSon » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:10 am

Leucius Charinus wrote: It is interesting to note that JC bribed his way into the role of "Pontifex Maximus" ...
"JC"??

if so, "bribed his way into the role ..."??

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Post by Leucius Charinus » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:41 pm

MrMacSon wrote:
Leucius Charinus wrote: It is interesting to note that JC bribed his way into the role of "Pontifex Maximus" ...
"JC"??

if so, "bribed his way into the role ..."??

Julius Caesar saw that it was politically expedient for him to be able to assume the role of "Pontifex Maximus".

He bribed his way to hold that position.

I don't have the sources for this at hand.
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