Revelation 11:3-14, The Two Witnesses, IV of V
Posted on April 29th
//So far, we’ve met Moses & Elijah, and Peter & Paul, as two pairs of candidates for the Two Witnesses of Revelation. But there are a few events in the story that just don’t add up. If later tradition is any indication, the early Christians may have considered Peter and Paul the two witnesses, but who was John really writing about?
A study of the writings of the Jewish historian Josephus provides either the answer or an eerie coincidence. In The War of the Jews, published just before the book of Revelation, Josephus heaps praise upon two priests in Jerusalem, Ananus and Jesus the son of Gamala. He narrates long, grand speeches for both men to their enemies: Ananus to the Zealots and Jesus to the Idumeans. This all occurs during the war, which lasted about three and a half years (1,260 days). Then the two priests are killed, and the Idumeans, standing upon their dead bodies, ridicule them. Eventually they cast away the bodies without burial, the ultimate way to disgrace or shame someone. “And this at last was the end of Ananus and Jesus,” Josephus wrote. Here’s how it happened.
As the Zealots of Jerusalem were fighting amongst themselves, a storm brewed and the earth rumbled. Josephus describes a great earthquake like this:
During the night a terrific storm arose; the wind blew with tempestuous violence, and the rain fell in torrents; the lightnings flashed without intermission, accompanied by fearful peals of thunder, and the quaking earth resounded with mighty bellowings. The universe, convulsed to its very base, appeared fraught with the destruction of mankind, and it was easy to conjecture that these were portents of no trivial calamity.
Taking advantage of the panic caused by the earthquake, the Idumeans, in league with the Zealots, succeeded in entering Jerusalem, and a massacre began. Says Josephus, The outer court of the Temple was inundated with blood, and the day dawned upon eight thousand five hundred dead. Close enough to Revelation’s number.
Curiously, just as Revelation says, this great earthquake did occur the “very hour” the Idumeans murdered, ridiculed, and left the two great priests, Ananus and Jesus, unburied in the streets of Jerusalem. Oops! Now what should we believe about the identity of Revelation’s two witnesses? Can this possibly be a coincidence?
Posted on April 29th
And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days … Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth … At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.
//So far, we’ve met Moses & Elijah, and Peter & Paul, as two pairs of candidates for the Two Witnesses of Revelation. But there are a few events in the story that just don’t add up. If later tradition is any indication, the early Christians may have considered Peter and Paul the two witnesses, but who was John really writing about?
A study of the writings of the Jewish historian Josephus provides either the answer or an eerie coincidence. In The War of the Jews, published just before the book of Revelation, Josephus heaps praise upon two priests in Jerusalem, Ananus and Jesus the son of Gamala. He narrates long, grand speeches for both men to their enemies: Ananus to the Zealots and Jesus to the Idumeans. This all occurs during the war, which lasted about three and a half years (1,260 days). Then the two priests are killed, and the Idumeans, standing upon their dead bodies, ridicule them. Eventually they cast away the bodies without burial, the ultimate way to disgrace or shame someone. “And this at last was the end of Ananus and Jesus,” Josephus wrote. Here’s how it happened.
As the Zealots of Jerusalem were fighting amongst themselves, a storm brewed and the earth rumbled. Josephus describes a great earthquake like this:
During the night a terrific storm arose; the wind blew with tempestuous violence, and the rain fell in torrents; the lightnings flashed without intermission, accompanied by fearful peals of thunder, and the quaking earth resounded with mighty bellowings. The universe, convulsed to its very base, appeared fraught with the destruction of mankind, and it was easy to conjecture that these were portents of no trivial calamity.
Taking advantage of the panic caused by the earthquake, the Idumeans, in league with the Zealots, succeeded in entering Jerusalem, and a massacre began. Says Josephus, The outer court of the Temple was inundated with blood, and the day dawned upon eight thousand five hundred dead. Close enough to Revelation’s number.
Curiously, just as Revelation says, this great earthquake did occur the “very hour” the Idumeans murdered, ridiculed, and left the two great priests, Ananus and Jesus, unburied in the streets of Jerusalem. Oops! Now what should we believe about the identity of Revelation’s two witnesses? Can this possibly be a coincidence?
http://www.dubiousdisciple.com/2011/04/ ... -of-v.html
The reader knows that there is a curious omission.
The Christian interpolator found the Jewish original text saying:
Their bodies were hanged/crucified in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—
…and since he knew about only a crucified (the Lord Jesus Christ), he destroyed "were hanged/crucified" in the original text and then he added the interpolation, meant to explain who was "really" the only crucified victim:
Their bodies ... in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified
But naturally he has left the traces of the his corruption + interpolation of the text.
Hence a question arises: were Ananus and Jesus stoned and hanged/"crucified" ?
This would make that Jesus son of Gamala the historical Jesus.
