The Presence (and Absence) of Nomina Sacra in To Theodore

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And just for clarification. You think there are three. I remember reading in Carlson he said two. Does he think there are 3? Smith thought there was only ku. Tselikas says four kou or implies it I think. Just want to make sure that you agree with me in that there are 3 kou and 1 ku.
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Do we agree

line 16 = kou

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Line 24 ku

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and then two kou on line 46

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BTW I speak rudimentary swahili kuku is the swahili word for chicken. Now sure how that figures into things.
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I will also thank you, Goranson and a few others in the paper I am completing. Peter Kirby too. Wouldn't have gotten off the ground without massive amounts of boredom on my part and this site.
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I think you are right the one in line 24 is certainly different from the others without a clear omicron but this is outside my expertise. I was following your statement earlier in the thread.

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Important for my paper. Thanks to a Belgian I found this https://books.google.com/books?id=N_v1z ... na&f=false
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Roger Viklund will get a very big thank you in my final paper:
Actually, in the note to line 16 on the transcription of the letter on page 448, he writes: “16 κυρίου: MS κου, so again in 24 and II.18 (bis)”. Accordingly he acknowledges all four as κου, in 1:16, 1:24 and twice in 2:18 (i.e. line 46). Yet, 1:24 is κυ.
So Smith saw all the references as kou but one is clearly not kou. How does that fit into his master forgery plan? I think that this cements he wasn't the forger once and for all.
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Secret Alias wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:39 am ... without massive amounts of boredom on my part and this site.
thanks we guess
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If someone made a mistake then therefore it can't be Morton Smith??
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Morton Smith to me, among his handwritten notes on a draft paper of mine (I don't have it in hand at the moment, so I paraphrase): take a course in logic.
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