Anyone know what came of Mark Goodacre's NT Gateway?

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Anyone know what came of Mark Goodacre's NT Gateway?

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I was going to refer someone to it, but the old links now all direct to a Logos blog about verbal aspect in Greek (whatever that is).

Mark seems to be alive, but his NT Gateway seems to have evaporated.

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DCHindley wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:16 pm I was going to refer someone to it, but the old links now all direct to a Logos blog about verbal aspect in Greek (whatever that is).

Mark seems to be alive, but his NT Gateway seems to have evaporated.

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On the switch to Logos
https://ntweblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/d ... teway.html
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Paul the Uncertain wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:25 pm On the switch to Logos
https://ntweblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/d ... teway.html
Hi PaultU,

If you click that eternal link that supposedly leads to the NT Gateway, you're in a Logos Blog that seems to have preserved nothing of the interesting links and tools available in his original site.

What happened here?
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DCHindley wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:16 pm I was going to refer someone to it, but the old links now all direct to a Logos blog about verbal aspect in Greek (whatever that is).

Mark seems to be alive, but his NT Gateway seems to have evaporated.

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Mark is very alive, unless some spirit has possessed him

NTE has partnered with https://www.logos.com/, the link you followed leads to a subdomain of it, https://academic.logos.com/, where their blog raises

One blog for all, no longer dedicated to just Mark's stuff

https://academic.logos.com/about/

Purpose:
theLAB exists to function as a “think tank” for those engaged in scholarly study of the Bible. We intend theLAB to be a place of fresh ideas, fruitful dialogue, and lively debate.

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mlinssen wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:44 am One blog for all, no longer dedicated to just Mark's stuff

https://academic.logos.com/about/

Purpose:
theLAB exists to function as a “think tank” for those engaged in scholarly study of the Bible. We intend theLAB to be a place of fresh ideas, fruitful dialogue, and lively debate.

It's not quite "for all."

Content "respects" to the ECPA statement of faith:
Statement of Faith

The content produced by ECPA’s publishing members must not conflict with the Association’s Statement of Faith.

The Statement of Faith of the Association is as follows:

I. We believe the Bible to be the inspired, the only infallible, authoritative Word of God.
II. We believe there is only one God, eternally existent in three persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
III. We believe in the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, in His virgin birth, in His sinless life, in His miracles, in His vicarious and atoning death through His shed blood, in His bodily resurrection, in His ascension to the right hand of the Father, and in His personal return in power and glory.
IV. We believe that for the salvation of the lost and sinful, regeneration by the Holy Spirit is absolutely essential.
V. We believe in the present ministry of the Holy Spirit by whose indwelling the Christian is enabled to live a godly life.
VI. We believe in the resurrection of both the saved and the lost; they that are saved unto the resurrection of life and they that are lost unto the resurrection of damnation.
VII. We believe in the spiritual unity of believers in our Lord Jesus Christ.

(This Statement of Faith is essentially identical to that of the National Association of Evangelicals.)
https://www.ecpa.org/page/about_ecpa

that the SoF applies to blog submissions:

https://academic.logos.com/contributors/

Not necessarily onerous, there are many interesting biblical questions that are non-confessional. Still, many questions are answered differently depending on faith perspective.

Caveat lector.
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Paul the Uncertain wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:28 am
mlinssen wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:44 am One blog for all, no longer dedicated to just Mark's stuff

https://academic.logos.com/about/

Purpose:
theLAB exists to function as a “think tank” for those engaged in scholarly study of the Bible. We intend theLAB to be a place of fresh ideas, fruitful dialogue, and lively debate.

It's not quite "for all."

Content "respects" to the ECPA statement of faith:
Statement of Faith

The content produced by ECPA’s publishing members must not conflict with the Association’s Statement of Faith.

The Statement of Faith of the Association is as follows:

I. We believe the Bible to be the inspired, the only infallible, authoritative Word of God.
II. We believe there is only one God, eternally existent in three persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
III. We believe in the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, in His virgin birth, in His sinless life, in His miracles, in His vicarious and atoning death through His shed blood, in His bodily resurrection, in His ascension to the right hand of the Father, and in His personal return in power and glory.
IV. We believe that for the salvation of the lost and sinful, regeneration by the Holy Spirit is absolutely essential.
V. We believe in the present ministry of the Holy Spirit by whose indwelling the Christian is enabled to live a godly life.
VI. We believe in the resurrection of both the saved and the lost; they that are saved unto the resurrection of life and they that are lost unto the resurrection of damnation.
VII. We believe in the spiritual unity of believers in our Lord Jesus Christ.

(This Statement of Faith is essentially identical to that of the National Association of Evangelicals.)
https://www.ecpa.org/page/about_ecpa

that the SoF applies to blog submissions:

https://academic.logos.com/contributors/

Not necessarily onerous, there are many interesting biblical questions that are non-confessional. Still, many questions are answered differently depending on faith perspective.

Caveat lector.
That, yes. Anyone or anything that is threatened goes into Conservative mode. But even when Mark was writing on his own, it was clear that he was deeply religious

It's interesting to see that his work is very well thought out, carefully thought through and well balanced, and when it comes to Thomas - there all he can manage is to prove agreement, upon which he triumphantly claims direction of dependence: his objectivity and clarity has always had certain limits
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Re: Anyone know what came of Mark Goodacre's NT Gateway?

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When I was considering an alternative study platform after BW went OOB and I lost my copy (the very same day I was set to back up my HDD on a thumb drive), I looked at Logos.

I was surprised to see that it is used about 90% for sermon preparation! Very confessional and very expensive (perhaps assuming the pastor's churches will be paying for it). This Logos Blog that was supposed to carry on Mark's Website seems to have intentionally let it die. Pffpft!

BW went through its confessional stage but ultimately decided to go for pure research by allowing user defined modules, which I found very helpful.

Looks like a web based solution is my best bet, although a basic Logos module might be helpful for Bible texts like GNT or Rahlf's LXX.
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