outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pm
spin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:48 pmouthouse has chosen to make statements against all Muslims based on the actions of very few.
What I stated is not even up for debate.
I.e. you are not able to debate your stated views.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmWhat an ignorant statement, you factually assume to know how many Muslims I deal with on a daily basis without even knowing me personally.
This deflection doesn't help you stave off the shit you bring upon yourself for your outrageously racist remarks.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmI'm sorry that you show severe ignorance on the topic of modern religious practice.
Had you understood your previous statement, you might understand that you were shooting yourself in the foot here.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmI will put this into terms a simpleton can understand.
I'd hoped you could aspire to a higher standard than your usual faire.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmI hope you can follow.
Whether I could or should are two different things.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmI think we can all agree YEC Christians hold higher levels of fanaticism and fundamentalism then typical Christians ???
If you could make simple distinctions such as "than"/"then", it would help your credibility. Why do you have to beat up YECs, when you could point out that almost a majority voted for Donald Trump, for a massive wall between the states and Mexico, for a refusal to do anything about global warming, for blaming immigrants rather than dealing with abusive business practices. It would seem 49+% of American voters are totally unacceptable, irresponsible fools who have insufficient thought even for their own children's futures, yet here you are blowing your wad about Muslims, YECs, and orthodox Jews.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmI think we can all agree orthodox Jews hold higher levels of fanaticism and fundamentalism then typical Jews???
I don't really care that much about fanaticism. One person's fanatic is another's inspiration. You remember that black fanatic with a dream. He was assassinated for dreaming.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmMuslims fall into the exact category of fanaticism...
Having been to Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Israel, Jordan and Egypt, I have met Muslims in all those countries who were probably better educated than you, cosmopolitan, intelligent, socially responsible, and extremely welcoming and hospitable. Fanaticism is certainly an unreasonable tag for any of them. As long as you don't have to deal directly with human beings you can be as dehumanizing as you like.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pm...and fundamentalism levels that of YEC Christians and Orthodox Jews Spin, whether you like it or not.
My likes are not at issue here. Your cognitive biases and your racism are.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmI can place muslims into this category with credibility and certainty based on
how much credible history muslims reject. That is how we get to DEFINE the level of fanaticism.
I saw neither a serious attempt at a meaningful definition nor any attempt to muster evidence for your shallow views on Muslims. And don't think that I am a spokesperson for Islam or the crimes of a few Muslims. I find your wholesale dismissal of all Muslims as fanatics below contempt. There is no analysis or evidence in your position. You are generally evidence-free in all your stated positions, so I guess I can't expect less of you here.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmLook at yourself, agnostic/atheist what ever you want wish to call yourself,...
Putting labels on things instead of dealing with those things is just a cognitive bias and it should show you that you are debasing your own thought.
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pm...you hold levels of fanaticism by how far you remove yourself from credible history.
I suppose that readers should trust the assertions of someone unable to do more than espouse platitudes, not to mention someone who thinks using capital letters to make a statement is cool....
outhouse wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pmTHE DIFFERENCE THERE DUDE is that evidence will change your mind, and it factually does not change a muslims mind.
Doesn't that basically make you a Muslim according to your logic?
I'm sorry that you cannot see the amount of nonsense you've posted, but I'm more concerned about the fact that you cannot accept people as human beings, but must categorize them and make idiotic pronouncements about those in categories you don't like. You seem to be a victim of
misleading vividness, "look, Muslim terrorist!" You don't consider two Israeli prime ministers were terrorists and another an ethnic cleanser. You don't consider western war crimes in Iraq based on lies. You don't consider the vast number of horrors committed locally were done by ordinary Americans, school shootings, bombings. How many Muslim Gacys and Dahmers have you read about? "Look, Muslim terrorist!"
There are enough homegrown fanatics for you to focus on. But fanaticism isn't really at the center of your rant. It's who you are told to mindlessly hate at the moment. Remember 9/11. Remember Pearl Harbor. Remember the Maine. Real Muslim terrorists know how to play to the same audience. You hating Muslims is good for their business. It doesn't matter that most Muslims are most interested in getting through the day, preferably without stray stinger missiles. But your hating Muslims helps isolate Muslims more and will stimulate a few more to join the nutter ranks. Your racism against Muslims is counterproductive.
It would be nice if you
stopped being a dick and treated people as people and not categories.