Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:49 pm
He didn't make a secret of it -
Carrier recently published a book entitled On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason to Doubt which lays out his views and arguments. I have been meaning to purchase, read, and review that book for this site since it was released, but I refuse to pay $85 for the hardcover or $35 for the paperback version– I find such prices to be wholly excessive. Unfortunately, the book has not yet received an eBook release, which I might be more inclined to purchase (though not if the price is similarly high).
There's something to be said for the inefficiency of trying to spread a new idea that's got its (supposedly) best presentation hidden behind a paywall.
Earl Doherty pulled off a balance of web material and book material that seemed more conducive both to discussion and (I'm assuming) book sales.
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I noted that an appreciate it, and did note the reference to Carrier having then recently given
a talk at Zeteticon which outlines his view. And it is good blog-post.
There are actually many ironies and points to my cryptic post above. Some are
1. I am also guilty of not having read
OHJ yet.
2. Carrier does not do what you have pointed out Doherty did. And, when Carrier posts web material he muddies his own waters -
ie. Carrier does not, in context, refer to or articulate his own overall argument well. And that is made more ironic by -
3. the point that nicma13 makes about Carrier in
OHJ is highly pertinent -
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Carrier...cites other early and later rabbinical sources as well as apocalyptic Jewish literature to show a clear messianic pattern that is based on the Zechariah passage in question. He does this precisely because he is aware that it would be easy to dismiss Philo’s passage as an isolated “one-off” thing. Also, his mythicist argument does not rest on one single line of evidence but hundreds, which when taken together as a whole, makes for a very persuasive conclusion. Do yourself a favor and please read his entire book.
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