'Connecting Gospels: Beyond the Canonical/Non-Canonical Divide'

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Re: 'Connecting Gospels: Beyond the Canonical/Non-Canonical Divide'

Post by outhouse » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:39 pm

DCHindley wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:02 pm


Have you ever seen their Rhetoric program? Very interesting.

DCH
You don't have a readable source for such ?

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Re: 'Connecting Gospels: Beyond the Canonical/Non-Canonical Divide'

Post by outhouse » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:47 pm

MrMacSon wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:18 pm


I think it's highly feasible that the First Jewish-Roman War is what prompted the writing (and other writings), but plenty of others have noted aspects of Josephus accounts in the NT texts to the extent that they are unlikely to have come from the same sources that Josephus used: it seems likely that they had to have come from Josephus, including Antiquities, which is post 90-95 AD/CE. (I also wonder about possible influence of the 2nd War.)
It has been my opinion for years now the War started the Markan text as it changed the way the early followers exchanged the good news, they needed to preserve important traditions as well as combat perceived heretical text, all while building divinity and authority in a quickly evolving movement.

I find no connection to markan text from Josephus, and any possibly shared traditions would from common knowledge/sources.

Luke I throw in the towel and hold your opinion, less im 50/50 and who relied on whom.

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Re: 'Connecting Gospels: Beyond the Canonical/Non-Canonical Divide'

Post by DCHindley » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:22 am

outhouse wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:39 pm
DCHindley wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:02 pm


Have you ever seen their Rhetoric program? Very interesting.

DCH
You don't have a readable source for such?
Sure mate,

The Forest of Rhetoric
silva rhetoricae

http://rhetoric.byu.edu/

DCH

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Re: 'Connecting Gospels: Beyond the Canonical/Non-Canonical Divide'

Post by outhouse » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:02 am

DCHindley wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:22 am
outhouse wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:39 pm
DCHindley wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:02 pm


Have you ever seen their Rhetoric program? Very interesting.

DCH
You don't have a readable source for such?
Sure mate,

The Forest of Rhetoric
silva rhetoricae

http://rhetoric.byu.edu/

DCH
Thank you kind sir ;)

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