The Name Yahweh Chosen for its Numerological Value
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The Name Yahweh Chosen for its Numerological Value
I would like to know what the oldest evidence for the specific divine name YHWH. I think it was chosen for its numerological significance having developed from the older Yahu. Here's the math:
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72 x 3 = 216 = gevurah 'power' of God
216 = 6 x 6 x 6
The reflection of this numerological foundation in the Pentateuch makes a persuasive case IMO for Yahweh being an artificially developed name. The Jewish religion developed from Babylonian mathematical mysticism which is why when why when it encountered Hellenistic culture and Plato in particular it the two reinforced one another.
This is the mystic Tetractys of the Pythagoreans and Platonists. More.
72 x 3 = 216 = gevurah 'power' of God
216 = 6 x 6 x 6
The reflection of this numerological foundation in the Pentateuch makes a persuasive case IMO for Yahweh being an artificially developed name. The Jewish religion developed from Babylonian mathematical mysticism which is why when why when it encountered Hellenistic culture and Plato in particular it the two reinforced one another.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Re: The Name Yahweh Chosen for its Numerological Value
Oldest is probably the Shasu use of YHW
It also may relate to EL (el dū yahwī ṣaba’ôt, "El who creates the hosts")
Its also debated on Yahwehs late Canaanite use as son of El and brother to Baal.
If you want to tie math in, you will need a specific date in the evolution of the concept, and the concept probably predates Israelites where little is known beyond educated guessing.
It also may relate to EL (el dū yahwī ṣaba’ôt, "El who creates the hosts")
Its also debated on Yahwehs late Canaanite use as son of El and brother to Baal.
If you want to tie math in, you will need a specific date in the evolution of the concept, and the concept probably predates Israelites where little is known beyond educated guessing.
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But El is a different god. I am specifically interest in the form YHWH. What's the earliest attested date? Thanks
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
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He was different but compiled with all of Els attributes as early as 800BC [attested] by some cultures. [painting/pottery of Yahweh and his Asherah]Secret Alias wrote:But El is a different god. I am specifically interest in the form YHWH. Thanks
Only the two you know about which is all we have.What's the earliest attested date?
There are two Egyptian texts, one dated to the period of Amenophis III (14th century BCE), the other to the age of Ramses II (13th century BCE) which refer to 'Yahu in the land of the Šosū-Bedouins',(t3 š3św jhw3), in which Yahu is a toponym. Regarding the Shasu of Yhw, Michael Astour observed that the "hieroglyphic rendering corresponds very precisely to the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHWH, or Yahweh, and antedates the hitherto oldest occurrence of that divine name – on the Moabite Stone – by over five hundred years."[5] One hypothesis is that it is reasonable to infer that the demonym 'Israel' recorded on the Merneptah Stele refers to a Shasu enclave, and that, since later Biblical tradition portrays Yahweh "coming forth from Se'ir",[6] the Shasu, originally from Moab and northern Edom, went on to form one major element in the amalgam that was to constitute the "Israel" which later established the Kingdom of Israel.[7] Anson Rainey comes to a similar conclusion in his analysis of the el-Amarna letters.[8] K. Van Der Toorn concludes that,
By the 14th century BC, before the cult of Yahweh had reached Israel, groups of Edomite and Midianites worshipped Yahweh as their god.[9]
I think the problem you may run into, is the multiple use of the name/concept in different cultures. There is no current link between Shasu and Proto Israelites. Were missing a few steps here that leave us in the dark.
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You're obviously not getting the point. The final he is important. When is our earliest evidence for the specific letters Y H W H.
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Inscription #3 from Khirbet el-Qom
The oldest known inscription of the tetragrammaton dates to 840 BCE, on the Mesha Stele.
The oldest known inscription of the tetragrammaton dates to 840 BCE, on the Mesha Stele.
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"Pythagorean" mathematics of this sort was known in Bablyonia at least 500 years earlier.
https://books.google.com/books?id=P6tEv ... ia&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=P6tEv ... ia&f=false
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Sure. Probably much longer then what is known.Secret Alias wrote:"Pythagorean" mathematics of this sort was known in Bablyonia at least 500 years earlier.
https://books.google.com/books?id=P6tEv ... ia&f=false
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And then there is the anomaly "Elohim" which is totally inappropriate for masculine monotheism. And Shemah for the (His) name. It's wrong. It only works in Aramaic. But it retains the desired numerology = 345. There is something fishy with all of this. Now to figure out Elohimm
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אלהים = 86
86 × 4 = 344
Almost but not quite right
86 × 4 = 344
Almost but not quite right
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote