Summa de Catharis et Leonistis
http://digilander.libero.it/eresiemedievali/sacconi.htmItem iste Iohannes recipit totam bibliam sed putat eam scriptam fuisse in alio mundo et ibidem esse formatos Adam et Evam.
Item credit quod Noe, Abraham, Isaac et Iacob et ceteri patriarchae et Moyses et Iosue et omnes prophetae et beatus Iohannes Baptista placuerunt deo et quod fuerunt homines in alio mundo.
Item quod Christus natus est ex patribus secundum carnem antiquis supra nominatis, et quod vere assumpsit carnem ex beata Virgine et vere passus est, crucifixus, mortuus et sepultus et resurrexit tertia die, sed putat quod omnia praedicta fuerunt in alio superiori mundo et non in isto.
Item quod in praedicto mundo totum humanum genus incurrit mortem propter peccatum cui obedivit, quod peccatum a praedicto Iohanne principium et causa omnium malorum sicut saepe dictum est supra, et corporibus eorum ibidem sepultis, animae descenderunt necessario infernum, id est in hunc mundum, et ad hunc infernum descendit Christus ut auxiliaretur eis.
Item credit quod ibidem fiet resurrectio mortuorum scilicet quod unaquaeque dei recipiet proprium corpus.
Item quod verus deus dedit in eodem mundo populo supradicto legem Moysi. Ibidem etiam offerebant sacerdotes hostias et holocausta pro peccatis populi, quae secundum legem praecipiebantur offerri.
Item in eodem loco Christus ad litteram fecit vera miracula, suscitando mortuos et illuminando caecos et pascendo de quinque panis hordeaceis quinque millia virorum, exceptis mulieribus et parvulis.
Quid plura? Quidquid in tota biblia legitur fuisse in hoc mundo ipse in quodam alio mundo ad litteram fuisse convertit.
It seems that this is just what says the Doherty-Carrier mythicism!Again, this John [a Cathar] accepts the whole Bible but he thinks that it was written in the other world where he thinks that were formed Adam and Eve. He believes too that Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the other patriarchs were liked by God and they were men in another world.
So, too, that Christ is born according to flesh from fathers above named, that he assumed a true flesh from the saint Virgin, that he really suffered, was crucified, died, was buried and was risen the third day, but he believes that all this is happened in another world, higher, and not in this one... So too, that the true God gave the law of Moses to the people in that same world. For there were the priests who were offering, for the sins of the people, the burnt offerings and sacrifices according to the law. So too there Christ did really miracles, raising the dead, by enlightening the blind and feeding by five barley bread five thousand men, besides women and children.
In sum, all that is read in the Bible be happened in this world, he put literally in some other world.