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by maryhelena
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 19
Views: 302

Re: Josephus again

Testimonium and Pilate -ca 30AD. Ant was published 94CE.I'm not too attached to this calculation The TF is set within a context of 19 c. e. It seems your not committed to Josephus dating for your Jesus theory. But I thought you said, or inferred, the gospel writers got their Jesus figure from Josep...
by maryhelena
Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 19
Views: 302

Re: Josephus again

But that's exactly how Jesus was created - Ant's reader found the right man in the book, who supposedly lived 65 years earlier, was loved by Jews and Gentiles, died on a cross. He thought and decided - this is the Messiah. The rest will be added. Why stop at 65 years? Why not go with 75 years and s...
by maryhelena
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 19
Views: 302

Re: Josephus again

Outside of Josephus there is no historical evidence for these two figures. It is not important. Invented hero is even better. Jesus ben Ananias, ben Sepphat, James' brother, and the last one ben Miriam called Christ. Tradition of historical Jesus was invented My comment, in context, related to the ...
by maryhelena
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 19
Views: 302

Re: Josephus again

The story of Jesus started in Ant. And was developed by ghostwriters in letters, in gospels. With invented tradition to cover the past. The main Jesus in the works of Josephus is Jesus ben Saphat/Sapphas/Sapphias. See Frans Vermeiren's 2017 book, A Chronological Revision of the Origins of Christian...
by maryhelena
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 19
Views: 302

Re: Josephus again

The story of Jesus started in Ant. It's one thing to say, as I do, that Josephus supports the gospel story - as a literary construct. It is quite another thing to claim that the Jesus story started in Antiquities. One could argue, as I have done, that the Lukan writer needed Antiquities for his 15t...
by maryhelena
Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
Replies: 33
Views: 546

Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?

Peter Kirby wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:16 pm Math and statistics (my degree) papers just go up on arxiv.org
That website seems very similar to what you have provided here.... a venue to encourage open discussion and debate.. a sharing of research and knowledge. Long may it continue.

:cheers:
by maryhelena
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
Replies: 33
Views: 546

Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?

Back to maryhelena's question on publications. In some cases journal authors, or their institutions, are even required to pay a fee in order to be published in a journal. (I never did this.) An opposite extreme is some free nonsense on the internet. One hopeful development is some publications, how...
by maryhelena
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
Replies: 33
Views: 546

Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?

Interesting developments re the NT canon. My interest is basically digging into the gospel Marcion had ie its role in the developing gospel Jesus story. I'll be crossing fingers Klinghardt can move the dial..... Marcion is having his moment. I'm not as plugged into the scene...is Klinghardt expecte...
by maryhelena
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
Replies: 33
Views: 546

Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?

In my experience, maryhelena, generally, there's no pay for an article. For a book, depends on publisher and/or sales. One example: I was co-author of Origin of Kibosh: Routledge Studies in Etymology (All serious libraries should have a copy!) So far, royalties amount to less than the price of one ...
by maryhelena
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
Replies: 33
Views: 546

Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?

The cleverest thing that the editor of our canon did was to shift focus from "which is the gospel of Paul" = the Marcionite understanding to "which is the real gospel of Luke." Can we stop talking about the gospel of Luke? The Marcionites knew THE apostle who wrote the letters a...