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by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

That history trumps theology is surely a fundamental approach to intellectual deliberations. What does the slogan mean? It means what it says. History and theology are not equal methods for the task of understanding the past. Can you provide an example of a time when someone on the forum employed a...
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

Peter Kirby wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:15 pm
maryhelena wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:14 pm That history trumps theology is surely a fundamental approach to intellectual deliberations.
What does the slogan mean?
It means what it says. History and theology are not equal methods for the task of understanding the past.
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

That history trumps theology is surely a fundamental approach to intellectual deliberations.

I'm really astounded that the idea, a slogan, could generate such heat.
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

If we found that every single idea whatsoever was of equal merit, that would be a very sad day indeed. But, no, I don't buy it. And if I did, I wouldn't see much point in pure speculation either. There are ideas I don't buy. We all judge ideas as best we can. Indeed, a very sad day were we to judge...
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

If there's an intellectual graveyard, then there is also a history of it, and all theology is also part of history. So I invite maryhelena to sing a Duet with me entitled, "Who were the Hasmoneans?" CW Wish I could but I can't hold a tune..while an Irish rebel song might do justice to the...
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

Peter Kirby wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:13 pm Why do you even bother to post if you cannot hope to convince anyone because you have no kind of basis for the theory whatsoever?


Nobody on this forum has evidence for a historical gospel Jesus. People offer theories, interpretations, opinions.

What theory of mine are you referring to?
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

There is no evidence for any gospel Jesus theory or interpretation. No evidence... Zero. At this point, you would logically just become skeptical of the historicity of Jesus. Instead, you have picked up the arguments of these skeptics parasitically to suggest that a completely unevidenced theory ca...
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

Ah, but slogans have their own power to concentrate the minds of the consumer. History trumps Theology....might even raise a debate that the issue needs attending. Slogans are a substitute where evidence in favor of a theory doesn't exist. There is no evidence for any gospel Jesus theory or interpr...
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

The historical act ? What historical act are you referring to ? The historical activity that underlies a religious story. For instance, the historical details of the sacrifice of Isaac are not actually “spiritually useful” for understanding the event. The meaning of the sacrifice of Isaac resides i...
by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 42
Views: 275

Re: History trumps Theology

Ah, but slogans have their own power to concentrate the minds of the consumer. History trumps Theology....might even raise a debate that the issue needs attending. Slogans are a substitute where evidence in favor of a theory doesn't exist. There is no evidence for any gospel Jesus theory or interpr...