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by GakuseiDon
Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: More info on Jesus' "miraculous (Egyptian) powers" ?
Replies: 4
Views: 170

Re: More info on Jesus' "miraculous (Egyptian) powers" ?

billd89 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:31 pmI am curious when Jesus' EGYPTIAN (HEALING) POWERS motif first developed. Something is missing, however. The Egyptian Church would have played that up, no?
Was it something created by Christianity's enemies or friends? If by enemies, then that would be a reason to not playing up that side.
by GakuseiDon
Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 40
Views: 1037

Re: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?

It seems that even Marcion's Gospel and Marcion's version of the Pauline letters still deal with the Jewish scriptures and still present a Jesus who is at least tangentially tied to Judaism. Given the teachings of the Gnostics, why did they deal with these materials at all? How did the canon that M...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 40
Views: 1037

Re: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?

I have my own crazy theory of Christian origins, which is my "magic heavenly Jesus" theory. As soon as Jesus was thought to be in heaven AND COULD BE SUCCESSFULLY INVOKED for magical healings and prophecies, various groups started doing just that. These were both Jewish and pagan groups, w...
by GakuseiDon
Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Chrestiani before Christiani
Replies: 5
Views: 221

Re: Yes.

I'm sold. I recall there have been a few threads on this? I posted a Reply . In later time, when Christianity had finally triumphed, the spelling χρηστιανός {=chrestianos} was proscribed as heretical.” That's interesting. When was "Chrestian" proscribed as heretical, and why? I'd be inter...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origins of the idea of creation through Christ
Replies: 8
Views: 318

Re: Origins of the idea of creation through Christ

One hypothesis for the origin of this idea is that it functioned as a catholic compromise between two untenable and warring doctrines in the early church-- 1. That the creation account in Genesis is fine as it is; and 2. that the world was created by angels or lower powers or a demiurge. The centri...
by GakuseiDon
Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"
Replies: 81
Views: 26618

Re: Lucian's = Followers of Luke?

'Lucian of Samosata' is Wrong here, simply. Given his own writings (cited), we may easily, reasonably and correctly infer: 1) LS was not a Believer; au contraire, he scorned Believers. (Necessary Condition 1: Prove that he was), 2) LS did not preach any Gospel; had someone so famous, it would have ...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"
Replies: 81
Views: 26618

Re: Not that Lucian

We have nothing , no judgement at all, by Seneca, Pilate, Tiberius about Christians. We have at least a comment by Lucian of Samosata about Christians, and as bild89 pointed out, that comment was negative . In a word: anti-Christian. It is irrelevant what we have. It's about what the ancient Christ...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"
Replies: 81
Views: 26618

Re: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"

According to Tertullian in his "Prescription against Heretics", Christian heresies are instigated by philosophy: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/tertullian11.html Indeed heresies are themselves instigated by philosophy. From this source came the AEons, and I known not what infin...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pauline Satan: not a Cosmic Power
Replies: 10
Views: 461

Re: The Pauline Satan: not a Cosmic Power

What a fascinating idea! I offer this, half-humorously but a little seriously: when Paul writes that he wanted to go "more than once" but "Satan hindered us", it immediately struck me that it sounded like "I wanted to go, but the ol' ball and chain didn't let me". Could...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"
Replies: 81
Views: 26618

Re: Not that Lucian

There is evidence for it, though: 1. Lucian wrote about Christians, and called Jesus a "crucified sophist". Lucian himself was part of the Second Sophistic. So Lucian, a sophist himself, calling Jesus a "sophist" would have been noticed by Christians. 2. Lucian wrote to a Celsus...