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by GakuseiDon
Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul --- A Criminal and a Liar
Replies: 19
Views: 617

Re: Paul --- A Criminal and a Liar

I love this clip (1 min 50 secs) with Benny Hinn, whom someone at the start of the clip calls "that new age guy". I think of Benny Hinn as a modern day Paul, with the heckler in the clip as a person from James' Jewish Christian faction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV88GrTjrkg
by GakuseiDon
Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were the Church Fathers 'Philosophers'?
Replies: 20
Views: 642

Re: Were the Church Fathers 'Philosophers'?

Christianity, like most other religions, moves with the times. When it started, it was a magical/mystery type religion, at a time when that was popular. That's how the vocabulary was taken. Then it became a philosophical one -- in fact, it had been compatible with philosophy all along! Terms were re...
by GakuseiDon
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The meaning of ἀπεκδυσάμενος in Col 2:15
Replies: 13
Views: 481

Re: The meaning of ἀπεκδυσάμενος in Col 2:15

This section of Colossians, especially the last sentence at 2:15, is perplexing-- Colossians 2:8-15 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ. For in him ...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11
Replies: 77
Views: 7533

Re: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11

Thanks, Paul the Uncertain. ---------- I read through the two articles that Neil Godfrey provided links for (thanks again, Neil!) * Cover, Michael Benjamin. “The Death of Tragedy: The Form of God in Euripides’s Bacchae and Paul’s Carmen Christi.” Harvard Theological Review 111, no. 1 (January 2018):...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ebionitism is post-catholicism
Replies: 2
Views: 157

Re: Ebionitism is post-catholicism

It is totally a modern invention the idea that ebionitism has to be placed after the historical Jesus and before the pre-existent Christ. Provocative! If ebionism evolved after the idea of a pre-existent Christ, what caused the movement from a divine-like Christ to a belief in a non-divine man? Usu...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11
Replies: 77
Views: 7533

Re: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11

In the Genesis story, it is Eve rather than Adam who receives the proposal to be 'like God' (Gen. 3:5; LXX has 'like gods') Reading on to the next verse, we learn that the Woman doesn't go fetch Adam, and yet he is there with her. This propinquity appears to be overtly mentioned in both Hebrew and ...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11
Replies: 77
Views: 7533

Re: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11

neilgodfrey wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:58 am A more generally accessible point for B's Form of God article: https://sci-hub.se/10.1093/jts/48.1.1
Fantastic! Thanks Neil.
by GakuseiDon
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11
Replies: 77
Views: 7533

Re: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11

Again, lots of scholars seem to see the idea of a pre-existence of Christ in Paul, so that needs to be taken into consideration. the games apologists play :| :lol: I know. It's not surprising to see Christian apologists wanting to see pre-existence in there, and so be resistant to Dunne's argument....
by GakuseiDon
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11
Replies: 77
Views: 7533

Re: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11

What is being compared are the words that we read in Genesis and the words that we read in Paul's passage. If we go beyond this data and seek an argument in what we believe an author thought and how he interpreted the words of Genesis then we enter the realm of question begging. How do we know Paul...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11
Replies: 77
Views: 7533

Re: Interpreting Philippians 2:5-11

"Form of God" == "Image of God" nicely solves that issue. Otherwise we'll have to guess what "form of God" actually means, and I'm not aware of any other use of that term that provides an explanation. Dunn would seem to have it wrapped up, but then along comes Cover, M...