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by GakuseiDon
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 21
Views: 840

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages

Irish1975 summarising Turmel on Romans 16.25-27 : "The mystery cannot be hidden for long ages and only now revealed, on the one hand, but also witnessed in the centuries-old writings of the Hebrew prophets." An analogy to clarify matters, at least for myself. For me, an example is the so-...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Guiseppe, you should watch that video! Around 42 mins, Litwa talks about the archons who crucified Christ, and his proposed reading may well be suitable to your own theories! 1 Cor 2:6-8 is a marcionite interpolation, as proved, inter alia , by Turmel, hence that passage can't be used to argue for ...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Just finished the video -- fascinating! Best part for me was Litwa's discussion about Second Century Christianity, from around 47 mins 40 secs, to about 52 mins. I'll have to buy his book!
by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Guiseppe, you should watch that video! Around 42 mins, Litwa talks about the archons who crucified Christ, and his proposed reading may well be suitable to your own theories!
by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Thanks McMacSon, that's interesting! The video is well worth watching, I'm about half way through at the moment. Litwa talks about the Seth-Yahweh connection at 24 mins in. Judge by yourself: why does Litwa describe Carrier as a modern Marcion, by merely mentioning him in a book on the demiurge? Giu...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

I found a page on Litwa's book on his website: https://mdavidlitwa.wordpress.com/ The bolded part is where I guess Litwa touches on Dr Carrier's views. "The Evil Creator God: origins of an early Christian idea" Summary. This book examines the origins of the evil creator idea chiefly in lig...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Why just Carrier? Why not Dawkins? At any case, even if he had named Dawkins and not Carrier, it is still a subtle insult. Why is it an "insult", though? In a book about people who consider the OT God being an evil Creator God, Dr Carrier's views seem to be applicable. In the following ar...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 425

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

The basic assumption is that "smart" people would not raise the same marcionite criticism against the biblical god. That doesn't seem to be the implication, based on those short extracts from the book. The implication is that someone can read the Old Testament and come up with their own i...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 21
Views: 840

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages

In 1 Corinthians 15, Paul does claim that the death and resurrection of Christ was “according to the scriptures.” Who knows what that means. Whatever it means, Paul is claiming he found something in the scriptures relevant to Christ. Another example: Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, ...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 21
Views: 840

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages

The mystery cannot be hidden for long ages and only now revealed, on the one hand, but also witnessed in the centuries-old writings of the Hebrew prophets. Doesn't Paul claim Christ was foretold in scriptures, though? For example: 1 Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also r...