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by GakuseiDon
Fri May 03, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 115
Views: 2793

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

I take Tertullian to be saying that Jews called Jesus a Nazarene because he was a Nazirite in accordance with naziritism the OT. It has nothing to do with belief in anything. It's just a matter of fact. If Jews had called him Jesus the Carpenter, I suppose Tertullian would have said it was in accor...
by GakuseiDon
Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev
Replies: 13
Views: 355

Re: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev

The religious content market works like any other. There is some content offer from which market players select products and attack selected groups of consumers. If you choose or create niche products for a niche group, you will lose because in religion the most important thing is the territorial s...
by GakuseiDon
Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 115
Views: 2793

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

One possibility (possibly wrong) is that Marcion (or his literary aid/s) worked from a manuscript of Luke and from a manuscript of Matthew to attempt to present the authentic, un-interpolated original Gospel. Assuming he worked from those manuscripts, then: what was he working with ? Insight, revel...
by GakuseiDon
Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 115
Views: 2793

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

That, I think, is Marcionism. I am Marcion, the Man of Pontus, because we are all Marcion, Man of Pontus. Each of us attempts to recreate the world to fit how we can best economize it to suite our understanding of it so we can cope and survive. Marcion is human psychology. Marcion is human philosop...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'
Replies: 11
Views: 335

Re: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'

spin wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:32 pm(And GakuseiDon whinces, "Oh no, not another fabricated interpolation!?")
Haha, true! But what you write makes a lot of sense.
by GakuseiDon
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'
Replies: 11
Views: 335

Re: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
by GakuseiDon
Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 115
Views: 2793

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

Reading Marcion's, 'Jesus came down to Capernaum', as a literal, flesh and blood journey, sounds strange to the ear - i.e. we use that sort of expression often (i.e. my sister came down to London - from up north somewhere or another). Since Marcion's gospel found no use for birth narratives - perha...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 17
Views: 465

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

Joseph D. L. wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:06 amMakes you wonder where God is going when he strolls on out of the Temple. Weird that Jesus ben Ananias appears, stage right and on his mark.
I suspect that Josephus was implying that God was about to put His weight behind the Roman side, with Vespasian as God's new favorite.
by GakuseiDon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 17
Views: 465

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

Josephus also implies that God had removed Himself from the Temple. This is consistent with what he wrote about how God had abandoned Jerusalem and the Temple due to the actions of robbers and the High Priests: At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed, ...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 1224

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Giuseppe wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:11 pmWithout offence, but the Ebionites don't matter in this thread.
:thumbup: My apologies Giuseppe. All good. Sometimes I get caught up in my own hobby horse! I'll start a new thread on that at some time in the future rather than derail yours.